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Opinions on One Way System

I don’t believe that you will get HGVs turning into and off of Kay Brow. They only just make the turn onto Bridge Street. I also see this idea as a bad thing and causing more congestion in Ramsbottom particularly along Bolton Road.

Kay Brow cannot safely cope with large vehicles especially in ice and snow.

How can council think to put one-way system in such a small broken up town roads. Roads are very narrow anyways you could barely park so much could go wrong with this absolutely horrible idea

Down Kay Brow in winter with snow and ice on the road and several huge HGVs - I feel stopping before hitting the East Lancs station car park may prove difficult. Going up Bridge Street, so can we still turn left at the station to access Lidl and the Craft shop or are we forced to go up Bridge St and down Kay Brown because that would increase the amount of traffic and the amount of pollution. Can I assume that the 474 / 472 double decker busses will also follow this route, thus extending the route by not allowing a left turn into Bridge Street What about HGVs turning left into Kay Brow, there's precious little turning room for cars, how are tractor and trailer articulated units going to cope.

There is no way hgvs and other large vehicles can negotiate the bend to turn down Kay Brow and I dread to think how the local lodge and old stone cottages etc will be affected when such a large volume of vehicles of this size but more importantly weight will be using a totally unsuitable road . Lots of pedestrians cross at the top of kay brow and so there is going to be an increased likelihood of more accidents and of course for them to be fatal. The gradient is also so steep and so will provisions be made to accomodate any failures in brakes etc . Whoever has thought of this proposal needs their head examining. Absolute madness and will make things worse than better. Other more viable options like traffic light synchronising better or some sort of bypass

A badly-thought out plan that won’t bring any long-term benefits to the town. All the photographs were heavily biased and incorrect depicting the town on a “typical weekend”. This photograph was taken when the bike race came to the town. A complete one-off. There are two nurseries on Kay Brow. The thought of buses and massive articulated Lorrie’s trundling down this very steep hill whilst the children are there chills me to the bone. It feels like it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Why has it taken this long to ask my views about this project?

Kay Brow is too steep and too narrow.

There is no need for this ‘solution’ to a problem which doesn’t exist. Spend some money improving the infrastructure as is rather than blagging us all with ‘there is no money unless we do this’

I can't understand how it's going to work as ramsbottom gets very busy on most days imagine the one way system it will be carnage

Ramsbottom is an oppressive person to be a pedestrian or cyclist the motor vehicle dominates the streetscene to the detriment of amenity and safety. we need to deprioritise the car for the good of all

I'd like to see the engineering design of the entry downhill into and along Kay Brown demonstrating that it is safe for HGVs.

I am at an absolute loss as to how anyone can think that this is a good idea. The traffic in Ramsbottom is already chaotic, this will bring it to a complete standstill. Kay brow is not a suitable route for many vehicles or drivers. The gradient and narrowness are obvious to all to see. The solution to the traffic problem is better coordination of road works - stop digging the road up. Consolidate works required into a couple of quieter weeks per year. Combine that with less vehicle parking on bridge streets and better traffic light timing and that is the optimal solution that can be achieved.

Wider paths in Ramsbottom centre would massively benefit me as an individual, however I oppose the idea as I am aware of the incredibly negative impact that it would have on everybody else.

It’s complete nonsense and does not address the real problem which is the traffic lights at Nuttall lane wheee the congestion will be as bad as ever.

I personally think this is a waste of money when Bolton RD West is like driving on a roller coaster...

The objective is fine, even laudable. But it will make the junction at the top of Kay Brow a terrible bottle neck, which will cause all the traffic coming from Holcombe Brook to back up.

Like the idea of encouraging cafe culture to Ramsbottom, but think it would be a terrible upheaval to lay brow and major work would need to be done to enable such a large volume of traffic to go up this road which has a very steep gradient as well as a lodge of water at the side of this road Lorries should not be allowed access to this road.

Kay Brow will not cope with the volume of cars as a result of this ludicrous idea. Furthermore, HGV vehicles will struggle getting down the hill. In winter, Kay Brow is a complete no go zone as is frequently covered in danger Black ice. It is hard enough driving down Kay Brow in winter but in an HGV this would be utter madness.

As a volunteer for Rammy Civic Pride who has spent countless hours working on Kay Brow Gardens. I wouldn't like to see that be destroyed. However, I have no idea of how the road usage will change. Hence my neutral choice.

Ramsbottom is currently congested at peak hours, this will only make it worse

Kay Brow could be dangerous in bad weather conditions. Ramsbottom is fine as it is, nobody asked fir this change. They should use the money wasted on silly proposals on other things such as filling the potholes and more frequent buses to Manchester

Unnecessary and will cause disruption also difficult if there is an accident blocking just one way in or out. Not well thought through idea, not considering the community thoughts around this

Not sure any change like this is needed. I’m unsure of why it’s happening or what the benefits and disadvantages would be as I’m unsure which streets are involved. I would love to see more details about it so I can decide and be involved in consultation about it. We live in walmersley but visit Ramsbottom regularly. There does seem a lot of large goods vehicles passing through which should probably be limited but I’m unsure how a one way system will impact this positively.

The whole proposal has good aims, although the main issues I can see are busses & wagons exiting Ramsbottom via Kay Brow / Crow lane although, if the latter was one way towards bridge st this might not be as bad. The fact that traffic has to cross itself to exit, a right turn onto Kay brow from Bolton St and the a right turn onto bridge st would increase congestion. The proposal for a greenway walking& cycle route improving access between Nuttall park & town would be a good thing. Likewise, a consolidation of car parking behind Owen’s to improve the space and make it easier to navigate & park along with setting aside some short stay parking

Never heard anything so ridiculous and certainly dangerous going down Kay Brow. Some smug suggestion from someone who probably doesnt live locally. Even with road alterations the junction of Kay Brow and Bolton street is dangerous. Coupled with winter weather, stupid.

Accident risk will be massive in winter

The architects of this so-called plan didn't even know about the existence of the Mondi Paper Works site or the fact that houses were about to be built there. They were asked about this at a public meeting and the situation, including traffic impact, had to be explained to them. It says everything about this hair-brained scheme.

It will create absolute carnage. Kay brow can't take wagons. The shops need the traffic they dont need it taking away. Spoke to local mp and he wouldn't even discuss this matter.

Present system works ok despite getting busy at certain times - people are patient and tolerant.

Ramsbottom is already a bottleneck. The proposed 1 way will make this worse

I understand the idea behind it but in bad weather it would be a nightmare down Kay Brow

HGV’s and buses coming down Kay Brow is going to be a nitemare. The road in my opinion is not wide enough. We were told at the meeting that HGV’s go up and down Bury New Road Ramsbottom with no problem. This is not an accurate assessment as Bury New Road is a lot wider than Kay Brow. Yes you widen the top of Kay Brow but not all the way down as there’s a nursery and industrial units plus multiple entrances to houses. Going up Bridge Road when goods vehicles are delivering is also quite hazardous at times.

Not needed total waste of taxpayers money

Would be terrible for Ramsbottom

Ramsbottom is a small town. If there is an accident, a broken down vehicle, snow or an accident on the M66 the roads in and around Ramsbottom get jammed. There is no need for this, there is no major accidents where pedestrians have been hurt so leave well alone. I will not shop in Ramsbottom if this happens. I will travel to Rawtenstall or bury

As we live near the top of Bury New Road I don't belive the one way system will impact us personally. However,although I understand the reasons for considering a one-way system I cannot see how this will improve traffic flow. It will move congestion from one area to another e.g Junction of a Bolton Street and Kay Brow, even after the proposed alterations. Although on paper a flat diagram of the one-way system may seem viable, the lay of the land and steep roads does not seem reflected in these proposals, especially considering the number of HGVs and buses using these toads.

Would be an excellent thing for the town.

Kay Brow is not a suitable route for a large number of vehicles. Main worry would be road safety for both drivers and pedestrians. It is very steep and narrow. Dangerous at best of times but shocking in bad weather conditions like snow and ice. A person has already died at that junction some time ago

Do not have enough information. How will traffic be controlled at Kay Brow. Will there be more traffic lights. Will there be alterations to the Kay Brow junction. We believe the large cost will provide little or no benefit.

You are trying to fix a problem that doesn’t exist For some people, they are going to have to go around the entire town just to get back to their home address every time. It’s a huge expenditure for no specific gain It will impact on shopping in Ramsbottom and accessibility for some. People will try and find shortcuts, which will clock up quiet streets. We fully oppose this idea. There are no issues using Ramsbottom. We would love the potholes to be repaired

I live in lodge street off Kay brow Wagons going down there is a joke Plus there’s a nursery on the corner With children being dropped off , it doesn’t bare Thinking about, stupid idea like everything else this council does

Ramsbottom is already congested, a one way system would make it soooo much worse, especially for pedestrians in the centre as there would be a constant queue to the urn

A stupid idea proposed by those who haven't a clue.

How can large vehicles go down Kaye brow? What about when there’s bad weather for example snow?

As a resident and a bus driver of Ramsbottom I'm well ware of how traffic can build up quickly even with minor road issues. A one way system would cause congestion. Emergency service would not be able to get passed single filed traffic top end of bridge street. Buses would struggle with the turn onto kay brow. The effect on the wildlife at the pond at top of kay brow. The impact of extra cars from the new residents on the old mondi site more traffic. I agree more pedestrian crossing are needed. Wider pavements too but Ramsbottom isn't built for it

Introducing a one way system via Kay Brow will mean chaos in winter weather (I used to work on Kay Brow & know the impact of snow & icy conditions) The trains will mean traffic is often backed up, it’s bad as it is. For residents it will mean longer, inconvenient routes to get to destinations. The increase in heavy traffic on Kay Brow will have a significant impact on residents and the nursery. Traffic is bad in Ramsbottom but spending a lot of money to make it worse is sheer madness

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We already have regular traffic issues to get home from the motorway junction. All hell breaks loose if there's an accident or a broken down bus or simply a waggon doing a delivery. Honestly it can take hours to get from Haslingden to Hawkshaw if there are any longer term issues on Bolton Road West. Why do they think that all the normal traffic can flow effectively in one lane? If cars can't choose to go up Kay brow we are all doomed. Dont mess with what's not broken. Why would tourists come to be held up, how about stop wasting money and help the businesses keep attracting our tourists.

It'll create gridlock in the town, anyone can see this. Why they're proposing this idea I'm not sure as anyone can see how it'll block traffic on Bolton Road North. I support investment in the town and improvement of the pavements but this idea will otherwise create mayhem for locals and make commuting considerably longer. There will be a negative environmental effect due to build up of traffic at peak times.

Traffic is poor through Ramsbottom at the best of times, this will make it worse.

Not only is Kay brow too steep for hgv’s and buses to travel down, in the winter it’s even dangerous for cars! The queuing traffic waiting to turn right will block the road down into Ramsbottom from Holcombe especially at rush hour when the roads are often blocked anyway. This will make the overall situation far worse, not better! This is a pretty ridiculous idea and can only have been thought up by people who don’t live here.

Will not work!

The issue with Ramsbottom is Bolton road west traffic. By making kaybrow a one way you will make this problem ten times worse with everyone going towards nuttall lane, Holcombe having to go up Bolton road west were now it’s split between Kay brow and BRW. People are more inclined to let people out when hovering at the top of Kay brow due to its steepness we’re letting people go to go down will be less therefore traffic will also build up towards kaybrow from nuttall lane. This will then impact on people trying to leave the whittingham drive estate which is a lot of homes with multiple vehicles. Maybe spend money fixing the issue instead of adding to it and creating a constantly gridlocked town. What happens if there’s road works or an accident?

Who ever came up with this traffic management idea needs locking up in a nut house

This will cause major issues with the flow of traffic through the town, especially on weekends and days with events

Absolutely ridiculous

I am a driving instructor of 23 years . I live in ramsbottom and work all day long in this area . We have the knew estate coming and then in four years time the easily project of 500 houses . The infrastructure is already a mess in rammy esp when there are roadworks . The only road that should be one way is the side street where Clark crafts is plus the one ways that are there already . But the councils proposal will not work and we will definitely be moving from ramsbottom if this happens

The more council approves housing plans the move it will impact our roads in and around Ramsbottom centre. We need more business coming to Ramsbottom a one way system will not help the people of Ramsbottom.it will add more time onto their journey. What happens if we need the emergency services to attend a incident. They will get stuck in the one way system potentially endangering lives.

Daft, poorly thought out idea. Kay Brow is not a road that can be adapted to make it suitable for all vehicles.

Congestion will not be resolved. In fact, it will be worsened. Evenings finishing work already cause gridlocks and hold ups. It will be worse when we have no choice of how to navigate our routes.

It will completely screw up Ramsbottom and is a waste of money

Consultation= terrible.archaic communication strategy locaks sharing on social medua is how most found out.Tanners promoted by bury tourism a rat run due to the never ending roadworks. dangerous / inconsiderate parking cause obstructions to the flow of traffic and footpathsthe council refuse to address, don’t want to upset Parker’s - forget their statutory duties in relation to road safety - vehicles over pedestrians who cannot access footpaths , reducing crime.( numerous fail to stop damages impacting financially on local residents in a cost of living crisis, ensure free unhindered traffic flow, this will get worse as traffuc volumes will divert up into tanners as Bolton street and brw suffer tailbacks If the objective is to get more people out on foot address the issues wehave already before adding to it. No idea! Bass get passing points Tanners doesn’t yet more traffic uses tanners than bass lane and apparently two way traffic can some how get down a road reduced to one lane. Yellow lines !

Simly inappropriate and will cause more trouble than it proposes to solve. Traffic is already held up at peak times. This will inhibit the flow for traffic. I am disabled and instead of going from my house up to the traffic lights onto the main road at the too, near Park Farm, I would have to negotiate Bolton St, Kay Brow and Railway street. A journey of about 3 mins would take me a lot longer and mean I was in the traffic lots of extra mins. How would big lorries negotiate Kay Brow, especially in the winter when the road is slippy. I know no one who thinks this would be a.good idea. Bin it.

The traffic through Ramsbottom will not benefit from a one way system as the problem of congestion lies at the four way junction of Nuttall lane, Dundee lane and Bolton Road. Even if you were to move more freely up Bolton Road during rush hour you would still be stuck in traffic when turning left towards Holcombe Brook due to the lights at that junction.

Bury council clearly had money left over so spaffed it on useless but expensive consultants who don't know what they are doing. Anyone who knows Rammy knows a one way wont work and more so the traffic is fine. Put extra parking over the railway line by the water treatment and a path along the railway line. Bury council are just trying to destroy rammy because we are happy.

The route is wholly inadequate for larger vehicles including buses and hgvs (that regularly travel to deliver and collect from supermarkets/Essity for example) as they can’t take the left turn into Kay Brow. Kay Brow also has a gradient that will put these vehicles in real danger of tipping over. Kay Brow also has a nursery on it which will be negatively impacted by the heavier, more polluting diesel large vehicles. . Also, the proposed one-way route will further clog the Bridge Street/Railway Street junction which is already a struggle to use due to traffic heading up Bridge Street. Furthermore, there will be an increase in traffic on Smithy Street/Square Street/Siver Street/Strang Street/Prince Street/Irwell Street/King Street/Union Street as drivers seek to avoid the one-way system. Making Ramsbottom more difficult to negotiate will increase traffic up Tanners Steeet/Rawson’s Rake (which should be made one-way to make it safer to drive up) as drivers will use trying to avoid the one-way system

I would like I be able to move freely in my town and not be further restricted in my actions

To go one way down Kay Brow with buses and Lorrie’s above 7.5 tonnes is ridiculous due to severity of the hill down and the turning at the top coming Ramsbottom centre would be near impossible

Ramsbottom is full of traffic this may reduce the congestion. If the pavements were widened cafes/bars would have an outside area and may attract more business. Ramsbottom is not as nice as it used to be.

I feel there is already heavy traffic at rush hour, I don't see how the proposals will help with this especially as there are roadworks causing chaos all the time. With a one way system and the constant roadworks it will just cause gridlock.

Hi, I am an Hgv Driver that works for a company in Stubbins, could somebody please explain to me on which route hgv's are meant to be taking around the proposed one way system ? Bury Town Centre is already heavily congested and at the other end of Ramsbottom there is a low bridge which many hgv's & buses are unable to use as part of their route. Maybe if there was more focus on illegally parked vehicles on double yellow lines up and down Bridge Street then maybe the traffic congestion wouldn't be as much of problem as it is now. Thank you.

Heading north on Bolton Rd near the Major, the right turn into Kayy Brow will be problematic. the suggestion is for a right turn 'pocket' ... given the volume of traffic at times this will be an easily forseeable pinch point. Thr significant number of articiksted lorries inc Cormar, Fed Ex and from the paper mill will exacerbate this There is little to no scope to widen the road there... anything other than one small vehicle turning right will prevent through flow of traffic, several queuing will block the road and the bus stop on the left heading south will need to be relocated. Much traffic in the morning heading for the motorway from nuttal lane estate will create daily log jams. This is the biggest weakness in the whole scheme that would severely compromise it.

The proposed routes are not suitable for the volume of commercial vehicles and public transport that would be required to use them.

Think it will cause a lot more congestion.

The proposed one way system will have a huge detrimental impact on those of us living in the area and should be left as it is! Kay Brown is far too steep and too narrow especially in the winter months when it is too slippery to drive down. Plus TNT vehicles would cause havoc trying to negotiate the road to get to their depot at the bottom. This is a bad idea and should not go ahead

Having HGVs and buses going down Kay Brow is a series of accidents waiting to happen...horrendous on normal days but what about snow and ice...putting a pedestrian crossing at the bottom of Kay Brow is dangerous...they are presuming large vehicles will be able to stop in time before hitting someone.

Kay Brow is unuseable to heavy traffic.

We live on a one way street in Ramsbottom but people still choose to use it to travel in the opposite direction. Kay brow is extremely precarious and will not accommodate traffic from the industry at the bottom. Pedestrians lives will be at risk especially if there is any ice. This is a ridiculous, ill thought out, plan - particularly as more houses are being built - this is going to make our beautiful little town a grid locked nightmare. Sort yourselves out!

Think it will make bridge street nicer and safer. Will increase traffic on other routes though.

Ramsbottom is too busy as it is making it one way will cause major disruption

It’s a joke.

I’m concerned the proposed one-way system in Ramsbottom will worsen traffic, especially once the new housing estate in the centre is complete. The current traffic lights—from the centre through to Nuttall Lane to Longsight Road—don’t sync properly, causing major delays at peak times. It already feels like priority is given to Whittingham Drive, which adds to the imbalance. Rather than a full one-way system, maybe consider making Bass Lane one-way during rush hour to ease pressure through ramsbottom without disrupting the whole town.

Apart from the increase in traffic around Ramsbottom due to the new one way system, what about people who live the centre of Ramsbottom. What was a 2 minute journey could now take around 10 minutes. Due to the one way system. Meaning more traffic on the roads and more pollution. It’s a ridiculous idea and whoever came up with it clearly isn’t from the area

Widening pavements in Ramsbottom is good for the economy as it will allow businesses to utilise seating areas for their customers who may enjoy the newly created spaces. However, using Kay Brow as a downhill route only will likely prove impassable in icy conditions and HGVs will likely not be able to use this route.

I travel through Ramsbottom and having large wagons and buses coming down Kay Brow is ludicrous especially in bad weather. The wagons from TNT are far too big to use Kay Brow and I personally would not want to be in front of them going down the hill.

Rediculous with the traffic, lorries, weather conditions in ramabottom . Don't spoil our town

Visiting and doing the shopping for my elderly mum who lives up from the town centre would me driving all the way round ramsbottom to get to the shops then doing the same to get to hers. It’s totally unnecessary. Kay brow also a very narrow road. The paths down this road are extremely thin. Walking up or down this path with a huge vehicle going past would be dangerous and scary. My other point is there is a pond on Kay brow that is home to many ducks geese and lots of other wildlife. Extra traffic and huge vehicles coming down this way would also put the wildlife in danger. This idea is ridiculous a one way system will make the traffic worse There are other ways to improve traffic flow

Ramsbottom will be gridlocked not helping local businesses that need deliveries and why ? so the pavement can be widened to allow for cafe tables ? Extra footfall that we don’t get anyway? We are in the north of England it rains! It would benefit no one. People of Ramsbottom have managed fine the way it is for as long as I can remember - about 1965 - why do the council insist on trying to reinvent the wheel? The Council has not got the money to waste! Spend it on the highways instead. No one wants this but as usual no one in Bury cares about Ramsbottom.

It isn’t practical

Ramsbottom is already an absolute nightmare to travel through during weekends and rush hour. This proposal will make the situation worse. Kay Brow can be extremely dangerous in icy weather how can this be part of a one way system?

The system we have currently us not working so let's give this a go.

I drive a HGV, and your proposals will cause accidents EVEN DEATH, in the winter. 100% stupid idea. I’ve screen shot this so when it happens the family of those affected can sue you for more as you were per warned

This will turn Ramsbottom into a gridlocked town, but it’s not like Bury councillors aren’t lining their pockets with backhanders off property developers after approving the building of over fifty houses in the centre, that were repeatedly objected to. They’ll sell us out just like Rochdale council did!

Utter madness who the hell came up with this stupid idea. Which numpties sat behind desks which faceless keyboard warriors thought up this madness . It will not work it will be worse . FedEx trucks going down Kay Brow in winter 😡. Bury publish your biased findings now !!!!!!!!

An utterly misguided and ill conceived concept. Kay Brow junction onto Bolton Road is a relatively narrow road and a very steep hill. By routing all traffic down this hill will only compound the traffic delays leaving Ramsbottom towards Holcombe Brook which already often queues all the way down the hill from St. Andrews church/school junction. By asking vehicles to turn left on a single carriageway road slows down traffic behind, especially HGV's which often take longer to turn off a main road. This will only exacerbate the queues and delays at the junction outside the Railway pub.

I'm concerned about the unnecessary cost and I wonder on what basis they have identified a need, I've not heard anyone calling for it. Will TNT be taking vehicles down Kay Brow or are they relocating. I'm concerned there will be an increase in heavy traffic on Bolton Road north and Stubbins school from Essity and other companies in Stubbins that need access to the M66 towards Manchester; it's already very congested at school times and dangerous with increased parking on both sides of the road at school times.

Ramsbottom doesn't need a one-way system in the same way Bury town centre didn't need an expensive cycle route. If the proposal is pushed through regardless of the community's opposition. I will ensure that my vote goes towards the party that reverses any changes to the traffic flow.

The proposals are absolutely ridiculous

How would it work for buses How would it work for local businesses How would it work for parking How would it work for the people living on these roads If it's worked for x amount of years why change it I feel the no-one has given a clear reason why it would benefit ramsbottom.

The impact of this proposed change would be catastrophic for Ramsbottom. The heavy traffic that would have to negotiate turning left into Kay Brow would not be feasible. Ramsbottom does not need nor require a one way system.

Bolton road west is already backed up constantly. Forcing more vehicles up that route will end in disaster. Also rerouting traffic down Kay brow - which will already be a nightmare for larger vehicles - will be ridiculous during any inclement weather, as the gradient is too steep. Trying to get ALL the vehicles then out of the road by the Railway pub will result in huge delays, as all the Ramsbottom bound traffic will be attempting to go up Bridge Street - this blocking the vehicles trying to get out. The doubling volume of traffic going up Bridge Street will then cause tailbacks all the way past Nuttall Park. Dread to think what will happen when the train is in! I do wonder which non-residing person(s) was/were actually employed to come up with such a scheme. I would wager they have barely stepped foot in the town not evaluated the daily issues first hand. How about you listen to people whose opinions would be helpful and insightful?? Instead of wasting money... Again!!!

Traffic is bottlenecked as it is, Kay Brow already claimed one life due to sheer volume & nutty drivers, MORE traffic already goes DOWN. I walk up that hill a lot so notice volume & direction. It's too narrow for the already majority of traffic which will be increasing! Even if it's widening the tightrope pavement on one side & non existent one on the other. Bridge Street - traffic will increase when the ridiculous estate of houses is open (experience of this impact living in Eccles where an estate was built on a major traffic bottleneck!). Whoever came up with these ideas was either insane, an ulterior motive for winning a prize or more like bonus for the craziest idea yet regarding annoying, inconveniencing, endangering locals, impact on shops already having a hard time there, not forgetting those of us who live on Bolton Road West towards Holcombe Brook. The backup goes past The Brook due to try turning DOWN Kay brow, this will make lives dire. Get a brain between you! SHAME, not fit for purpose ANY OF YOU

It will cause mayhem on the roads. Block up exit and entrance to Nutall Lane estate. Have a negative impact on the shops and town.

Kay brow is totally unsuitable for most traffic, most larger vehicles are unable to use Kay Brow without causing major traffic congestion, I appreciate that it will be made wider etc but cars can struggle too. When the weather is bad the road can be dangerous and is often closed when icy/snowy. You would be unable to change the gradient of the road.

With the current levels of existing traffic this a poor idea as Kay Brow will struggle to take the volume of traffic. Furthermore, the new housing developments in Ramsbottom and Tottington, respectively, will "double down on this issue". Priorities are incorrect. For example, local residents in Summerseat asked for a "two cars at a time" sign at both sides of Bass Lane, which was denied. Simple issue, simple solution!

Kay brow is a very steep, difficult to manoeuvre and totally impassible in snow and ice. Large vehicles travelling down to the industrial estates will make it dangerous for all.

If the planners lived in - or even visited - Ramsbottom there would be no need for this question. Kay Brow is a very steep hill with very narrow pavements and in some places no pavement at all. There is absolutely no possibility of HGVs or emergency vehicles being able to safely negotiate their way down this steep, narrow road, particularly in winter as it is often already closed due to ice and snow. Making Bridge Street one-way going upwards would also cause chaos due to the volume of traffic, especially at peak times. If driving into the town centre is purposefully made difficult by these ill-thought-out plans, the effect on local businesses will be detrimental. This plan appears to be a way of gathering government funding to renovate / maintain Ramsbottom centre but as the remit here has to be to make things more eco-friendly, it will not work. People drive into Ramsbottom because it is unfeasible to walk or cycle to go shopping as it is so hilly. This plan was doomed from the start.

Pointless waste of money, won't calm traffic and the money would be better spent resurfacing the main roads.

How are wagging going to get down Kay Brow? Ridiculous idea, it is too narrow at the top!

It will cause way more traffic disruptions than it already has!!

Think it makes sense for motorists as there will be less jams and makes it safer for pedestrians

Will increase congestion & no thought about large vehicular access to Kay brow during snow & icy conditions in the winter .

Like the idea of encouraging cafe culture to Ramsbottom, but think it would be a terrible upheaval to lay brow and major work would need to be done to enable such a large volume of traffic to go up this road which has a very steep gradient as well as a lodge of water at the side of this road Lorries should not be allowed access to this road.

It’s the traffic lights at Nuttall road that cause the build up of traffic all the way back to ramsbottom Swimming baths. During busy peak periods have them in green much longer.

The one way system is a by product of the main outcome, which is a town centre which is more pleasant for pedestrians. The widening of the pavements to make it safer to walk through and around town with children, dogs or shopping bags would have a real positive impact, including encouraging more people to visit and to spend money in shops and restaurants. People beat cars, full stop. Yes it might be less convenient for cars which need to go round, but people are more important

Too much heavy traffic through Ramsbottom which would make Bolton Road gridlocked even more than it is at present if it was all being diverted through Kay Brow

More likely to have accidents and heavy traffic due to one way system and difficulty parking in ramsbottom centre. It will affect the bus routes completely. Buses won't be able to do that proposed route.

Too difficult to pull out of Kay Brow against traffic. Works fine as is. Will have to go out of my way and do longer journeys

I’ve already moved both my businesses out of Ramsbottom and have bought premises in haslingden. Unfortunately I still live in ramsbottom and will have to commute past the dreaded one way system. 1500 people have objected to it which is unprsidented. The leader of the council told me a decision would be made by July. Councillors have been worse than useless. How do we get resolution on this?

Kay Brow is too steep, buses and lorry's will not cope. The congestion trying to turn down there will have a major impact, I'm guessing there would have to be more traffic lights at the top. Then getting out at the bottom of bridge street will be a nightmare, will need more traffic lights, its bad enough when the train comes in now. Kay Brow is not usable/closed when it snows and would be disastrous. I disagree with the proposals.

Too much traffic in Ramsbottom. Not enough crossing points. Too many trucks go up through town.

This idea is insane. It will impact local infrastructure and kill businesses. It will create bottlenecks as traffic has less options to get from a to b. It will also cause congestion. Have the people who dreamt this idea up ever used Kay brow ! One problem and you will bring the whole of ramsbottom to a halt. If it ain't broke (which it isn't) done fix it !!

Kay brow is impassable in the winter Without widening the road entry Lorries and some cars can’t get down if coming from Edenfield way. There is no need for a one way system. There is only congestion at pinch points in the day. Getting to the local supermarkets will be difficult if everyone is having to circle around to go down Kay street.

It just seems ridiculous You need to incentivise FedEx and Cormar Carpets to leave & move nearer motorways, Pilsworth for example. You have a once in a generation chance to transform our town. Be bold.

This will not alleviate congestion but increase it, especially in the evening as everything coming off the M66 will be sent via Bridge St. We will be unable to use Kay Brow. It's ill thought through and provides no solution. It will be a waste of money and if implemented we will be left to live with the consequences.

This is a small village that has ELR running through the centre and also has wagons from the TNT using the main road through the centre and up to the M66 at all times. There are also two supermarkets and the centre is full of shops To make this a one way system would be absolutely ludicrous Obviously the people who are wanting this one way system neither live or work in the area So the should quite frankly JOG ON

It's just stupid. There's not a lot more to add. It's just making it more awkward for everyone. Who is going to sit on a pavement table and chairs outside a cafe inhaling the fumes from the traffic. If anything, get rid of the parking outside the church on bridge street and that will improve traffic flow.

Kay Brow is not passable in wintry conditions, nor suitable for HGVs. HGVs cannot go round through Stubbins due to low bridge. The traffic through Stubbins is highly likely to increase dramatically to avoid Kay Brow. Cut throughs like Tanners Brow which is hard to negotiate now will also see an increase in traffic to avoid queues trying to turn into Kay Brow. The issue will just shift to these places instead.The buses will also not be able to manage Kay Brow, so we will lose our circular bus routes. Instead of building houses on old paper mill site which are highly likely to flood in winter, town needed a large car park on that site so visitors could park and walk into town. Also the new houses will put extra pressure on an already struggling road system even with the one way system proposed.

Road too steep in bad weather it will grid lock Ramsbottom.

Bridge street will be chaos! this is a disgrace if it’s passed without asking the local residents!

Whoever thinks this absolute waste of time, money and effort is a good idea must be an imbecile and clearly does not listen to it's constituents. It is not wanted.

It won’t benefit ramsbottom will cause more delay

Did this Australian compny ever vist Ramsbottom. Creati g a one way system as proposed is nonsense and will just make a bad but manageable situation worse There are just too many cars and wagons on our poorly kept roads . The money wasted on so called expert consultants would have better been spent on road maintenance . Which are in an appalling state. How did this country ever run an empire.

A one way system up bridge street is barmy you only need a breakdown or delivery wagon and the whole traffic stops and builds up Going down Kay brow is a nightmare now with heavy goods vehicles and in winter the snow and ice will make it worse

Negative impact on flow - one way will mean that when something happens like snow/ flood / incident whole area will come to standstill . Also major rat runs will develop on small roads. Shocking idea

Kay Brow is not wide enough for HGVs to travel down frequently or safely, especially not in winter. I do not feel there is adequate turning circle for HGVs turning left from Bolton Street down Kay Brow. Increasing the number of traffic lights in the town centre is also going to exacerbate congestion at peak times when it's already bad.

We live near to top of Kay brow and worry about the cars and danger of my child playing

Will be serious impact on air pollution on Bridge St. caused by standing traffic due to extra volume of lorries and cars waiting to go through the traffic lights on Bolton St. The idea sounds good but will cause chaos

It won't work this one way system it's a ridiculous idea and wasting money so we do nit need a one way system in Ramsbottom. We need more supermarkets like iceland farm foods, home bargains etc

Traffic issues in Ramsbottom aren’t caused by Bridge Street, they stem from the Nuttall Lane/Bolton Road West traffic lights. Making Kay Brow the sole route to the M66 will force traffic from Holcombe Brook, Greenmount, Tottington & Bolton to cut across the congestion from Nuttall Lane, creating gridlock during rush hour. There’s also not enough space for large vehicles to safely turn down Kay Brow, unless the gardens at the top are being demolished. And, rerouting traffic down Kay Brow would divert vehicles away from Bridge street, harming local shops and restaurants. A better solution would be to keep the current road system and address the real issue: Whittingham Drive Estate needs its originally planned second access road. That would reduce pressure at the Nuttall Lane junction and ease congestion town-wide. Additionally, ban heavy traffic from the top of Bridge Street to make the pedestrians safer. Lorries can access the M66 north more safely along Whaley Rd to the Edenfield Roundabout, avoiding town

Will cause chaos such a daft idea.

This has been proposed by someone who obviously doesn’t live in Ramsbottom or the surrounding area. How on earth this will work with buses/lorries etc as well as normal traffic is beyond me.

I think a one way system in Ramsbottom would make the traffic worse.

The traffic would be horrendous especially on weekends when cars are waiting for the steam train, the traffic is queuing all the way to kay brow as it is without the stupid one way system. Nothing will make any difference to the traffic in the centre Ramsbottom is to busy. I know the labour plan is to get rid of all the cars an only use public transport an this is part of the plan. Spend money on fixing the roads instead of trying to control us

It would need traffic lights from railway street to bridge street.? Would I still be able to travel to stubbins from Holcombe along the main road?

Think about snow and ice in the winter period on Kay brow.

Negative impact on flow - one way will mean that when something happens like snow/ flood / incident whole area will come to standstill . Also major rat runs will develop on small roads. Shocking idea

Will be excellent and make bridge st so much safer as the footpath is very dangerous

Kay Brow cannot cope with heavy goods vehicles and buses!

Stupid stupid idea.

Super left hand turn for larger vehicles to progress down Kaye Brow!

Ramsbottom is already busy with a two way system. Kay Brow is a death trap in winter. If a one-way route is blocked for any reason, there is no alternative route in/out of Ramsbottom. More houses being built means more traffic, so we need to not be reducing routes.

It would be an absolute nightmare for trucks, traffic and snowy conditions if traffic were to be redirected through a one way system

Ramsbottom needs a positive change. Roads in and out of the town need replacing as they're worn out and if infrastructure needs re designing then so be it.

If you live in ramsbottom you'll know not to put a one way where are the lorries going to go to the factory because it's not happening going down the hill you'd have to at least spend over a hundred million and I'd rather you just put it into the road

Absolutely bonkers - will create more issues, not less and destroy the character of the town. Idiotic idea - like their bike lanes in Bury! There are ways to improve the flow of traffic, but this is not it. I formally submitted my views as part of the consultation - not because the Council notified me, but because I was made aware through social media. Very disappointing that people who don’t know or live in the down are making these suggestions, without any local knowledge.

It's a ridiculous idea and dangerous,

There is no need to change the traffic system in Ramsbottom. Yes its busy at peak times but that is the same in any town centre. A one way system will cause major traffic chaos. To go down Kay Brow in icy whether will be horrendous. Impossible when snowing. As for widening the pavement for a cafe culture. Ridiculous idea. It rajns a large perventage of the year. Also too cold the majority of the time yhroughout the year. Who on earth thought a oneway system would benefit the town and the people who live in it.

Kay brow is impassable if there is snow or ice! What would happen in these circumstances? How would buses/large vehicles navigate Kay brow? Turning right onto bridge street from the centre of Ramsbottom would be a bottleneck especially at peak times!

It is diabolical and will cause more traffic. They’re building new homes in the town centre near the the Railway and this alone will have a very big impact on the traffic flow in Ramsbottom. Without adding a silly stupid one-way system. Who ever thought of this idea obviously doesn’t live in Ramsbottom. Myself & husband both agree that this idea is a stupid one and are totally against the one-way system

Buses and lorries that serve Ramsbottom are struggling to get through Ramsbottom town centre as it is this will make it worse.

As I run a heating and Maintenance company live in ramsbottom and travel through to manchester daily, having a one way system through ramsbottom will be a total nightmare. This and Kay brow is a total death trap in winter months and I avoid this road at all costs as it is regularly backed up and very slippery the route will cause further disruption to any resident or buisness on this street. With fed ex residing at the base of Kay brow they would be required to go up Kay brow in winter if this proposal is to go ahead I feel strongly that when any damage or death is caused due to Kay brow being unpassable in winter by HGVs and accidents occurring with HGVs will now be forced to go up the road causing danger to property and life that all who approve the said plans should be held legally responsible for loss of life or property damage.

This proposal is absolutely stupid idea created by people in the USA.This idea can not happen it will be absolute chaos. A one way system going down Kay Brow,Have you seriously given this some thought. All HGV,Buses, 7.5t, Bin wagons going down this road in winter time especially. This cannot happen and as a resident of Ramsbottom I strongly disagree with any proposal for this to be implemented. Plus what will happen to the businesses on Kay Brow. Absolutely stupid idea.

The footpaths are too narrow for two hgvs to pass safely near the butchers with prams and old folk on the pavement. We desperately need this scheme before someone dies

Unrealistic suggestion will lead to increased traffic congestion, not necessary, impractical, waste of money, disruption to residents, visitors and business owners

I think it’s a great improvement on what is happening currently. I m hoping that with widened pavements we will encourage more pedestrians to be able to walk around more safely.

It will be a disaster take people away from the shops and cause chaos

This is a ludicrous idea. This will cause so many problems for residents and cause long traffic delays. Whoever has thought of this idea is obviously not a resident and possibly hasn’t ever been to Ramsbottom!!

I feel something does need to be done to improve the traffic situation in Ramsbottom however I’m not sure this is the correct solution

Ramsbottom traffic is already a nightmare, a one way system will benefit nobody and will make the issue much worse!

going down kay brow in the winter will be dangerous! The traffic already gets backed up down bridge street and towards peel brow, with a one way system this will be a lot worse!

Having lived in Ramsbottom for many years I find it incredulous that the proposal to send all traffic down Kay Brow was ever thought viable! Have the planners any real idea of rush hour In Ramsbottom and the length of the queues? Have they driven down Kay Brow in the winter with snow or black ice ?? I feel so many people would not feel safe doing so and it would cause them huge inconvenience getting into their own little town. Then we come to the ridiculous image of HGVs turning into and manoeuvring down such an unsuitable route notwithstanding all the poor residents of the Kay Brow vicinity enduring the noise , pollution and sheer unpleasantness of huge wagons thundering past their homes . Then there’s the added danger of walking and crossing the steep, narrow lane - including many schoolchildren every day. Also it’s hard to see how traffic coming down from Bury New Road and Peel Brow would flow at busy periods if there’s no left turns and everything has to go through the traffic lights. The queues at time

I grew up in Ramsbottom and still visit very often due to my parents living there. I believe it would definitely not be a good idea to create this one way system, the traffic is already very bad in Ramsbottom at certain times and I cannot see how this would help at all.

Proposed one way system will cause traffic chaos & won’t improve the current situation. All vehicles coming down Kay Brow (including a large number of HGVs and tractors) will then need to turn right to travel towards the M66 junction/out of Ramsbottom. When ELR trains are running, the level crossing is closed for several minutes so traffic wanting to turn right at this junction will be held up & congestion will follow. This will be exacerbated by the new houses being built near the station & the extra associated vehicles. Major congestion in Ramsbottom is frequently caused by buses stopping on Bolton Road West & traffic building up behind them. This will adversely affect traffic coming through Ramsbottom from the centre if all vehicles are forced to travel via the proposed route & increase delays. Traffic travelling from Bolton direction towards Ramsbottom & then turning down Kay Brow will cause delays as the road is not wide enough for 2 lanes - for right turn & straight ahead through town.

Absolutely ridiculous idea from bury council as usual, especially with the new builds being built. Shocking idea, nobody in their roght mind would agree to this!

Would much improve the traffic and pedestrian access to Ramsbottom

Whoever came up with this idea does not live here.

Traffic nightmare

Kay Brow is too narrow and dangerous

Awful idea. Silly proposal by people who have probably never been to Ramsbottom and seen traffic problems most days. Add to this idea any roadworks by gas/electric/water/ new estates etc., it becomes a bit of a joke. A company paid to do nothing to produce a nonsense plan that will cause more problems that it solves. What a wast3 of council tex payers money. The council are supposed to represent us, not waste money on silly ideas, before anything is done/not done!

I imagine it will be a nightmare for a fully loaded wagon to go down Kay Brow…

Increased Congestion and "Chaos": A primary concern is that a one-way system on key routes like Bridge Street and Kay Brow, could lead to more traffic backing up on other roads. Residents worry it will force them to take longer "tours of Rammy" to get to and from their homes, and that it could make existing traffic problems worse rather than better. ​HGV Access: Businesses in the town rely on HGV deliveries and many have expressed concern about how the new system will affect access for larger vehicles. While the council has stated there are no proposals to ban or restrict HGVs, the practicalities of a one-way system for large lorries are a significant worry. Kay Brow: The steep incline of Kay Brow is a particular point of difficulty it is sometimes closed off due to ice or snow. The proposed one-way system on this street is seen as potentially exacerbating existing issues.

Absolutely ridiculous idea, how on earth are hgv's/buses etc. expected to turn down Kay Brow? Its not wide enough and too steep. The money would be better spent on sorting out pot holes and resurfacing existing roads.

There is enough traffic in Ramsbottom as it is and this will create a huge impact to the local area and navigating through the centre

The proposals to introduce the one way system are ill conceived and not properly thought through. Forcing all eastbound through traffic to use Kay Brow, including articulated HGV’s and double decker buses, is unsafe due to the geometry of the junction, gradient on that route, sharp bend and lack of forward visibility. The introduction of improved pedestrian facilities on Bridge Street utilising active travel funding is welcomed but this should not outweigh the wider implications these major routing changes will bring. Like all towns in the area, not all problems such as narrower than idea footway widths can always be addressed. Alternatives should be explored, such as using Factory Street and Crow Lane rather than Kay Brow. Bury Council should consider the views expressed already by local residents, including those posted on social media that reaches more residents than targeted publicity can do

Has anyone from the council actually been to Ramsbottom, looked at Bridge Street & Kay Brow? Can't imagine buses having to make their way down Kay Brow, very narrow & will be held up getting to their destination due to the railway & causing congestion. Also won't be able to get a bus direct into the town centre. Have the bus service providers & the mayor of GM (Bee Network) been consulted re these changes to our service

The footpaths are too narrow for two hgvs to pass safely near the butchers with prams and old folk on the pavement. We desperately need this scheme before someone dies

No info apart from this FB post

It will cause more traffic problems not solve them, especially the kay brow will cause more accidents and block the one way. The fire service, ambulance services and police were not aware of the proposals and have said it would impact them hugely and could cost lives. If they stopped digging up roads on bolton road west unesassarily that causes the traffic that would solve alot of problems. The one way would finish the shops in Ramsbottom as people would go elsewhere were they don't have to do loops, be stuck in more traffic to get were they want to go.

Crazy suggestion, Ramsbottom is in no way equipped for a one way system, Kay Brow especially is unpassable for any vehicles bigger than a van, the turning circle at the top of Kay Brow is not accessible for waggons, buses etc. A one way system around the town would cause utter chaos. Definitely do not agree to this idea.

I live behind St Paul's church. We don't need a one way system, we need better parking facilities for visitors. All the way round to get to Tesco, that is virtually across the road from my house? And my street will be the town centre rat run to avoid the one way system. On top of that, the character of the town centre will be forever ruined. Spend the money on fixing the broken, uneven paving and renewing the roads. The river area is a disgrace, it's overgrown and we can see less of the river each year now from the bridge area. A one way system is a terrible misuse of tax payer's money. Listen to the people that actually live here and to our genuine concerns. Who are you actually doing this for? It doesn't seem to be the residents, as I don't know anyone who actually supports the idea.

Ramsbottom cannot cope with one way system, I used to own a shop on Bridge street, and with the slightest problem on one of the roads , whether it’s the motorway or the train, it just wouldn’t work, leave it as it is please!!!

The use of Kay Brow for more traffic will no doubt have a detrimental effect on the road surface, will also increase road noise for residents and cause delays for residents on Grants Lane & Kay Brow flats - Kay Brow would need significant works at the junction with Bolton Road to accommodate heavy goods & buses if route to be used by all vehicles, the additional traffic expected with completion of Willow Bank will also impact traffic combining through / to Ramsbottom. Unsure what the benefits would be to putting one way system in place apart from stopping cars using Kay Brow to cut out Bridge Street / central Ramsbottom during rush hour

Yet again Bury council are going to make an ill informed judgment, this time affecting Ramsbottom’s thriving town centre.

Ridiculous idea

Complete waste of money and time. It’s fine as it is. Yes there’s some traffic, no it will not be eased by making Ramsbottom a one way system. MUCH more important things to be spending money on. Going down Kay Brow is intimidating and dangerous enough for many drivers as it is, nevermind in winter conditions. There will be so many accidents and no other route option when that does happen. Severe lack of communication with Ramsbottom residents regarding these proposed plans. Utter waste. I regularly travel from Holcombe to Edenfield and this would add on an unnecessary detour to what is currently a reasonable journey. I also think it would negatively impact the shops.

It will destroy thus area by introducing hour long traffic delays. It’s clearly been suggested by someone with zero knowledge of the area and doesn’t take into account the impact on surrounding side roads.

1. I cannot emphasise enough that rush-hour congestion already causes significant delays, and a one-way system could exacerbate this. 2. Kay Brow’s poor gritting record raises concerns about increased accident potential, especially when it’s designated for uphill, eastbound traffic in winter. 3. Surveys show constituents prioritise better public transport, improved road surfaces, and adjusted traffic light phasing—all of which would likely have broader benefits than switching to a one-way flow. 4. Social media discussions show local sentiment is overwhelmingly wary about adding more congestion or making travel more complex 5. Bury Council hasn’t yet demonstrated how a one-way layout would ease congestion or improve safety compared to alternative solutions. 6. I think it would be beneficial to redirect the focus to measures with clearer, more tangible benefits, such as fixing potholes, optimising traffic lights, and enhancing public transport.

Forcing cars to go up/down Kay Brow in winter is not practical, as especially under snow/frost this can cause accidents. Also, people will have to circle in order to go to various places.

I think making bridge street more pedestrian friendly, and safer pedestrian crossing into Nuttall Park on Kay Brow by Fed Ex is urgently needed. But the idea to use Kay Brow as the only exit route out of Ramsbottom is flawed for multiple reason, unsafe in winter, and lorries will have to use it (from Stubbins industrial estates). I think it needs reviewing, especially as our street, Crow Lane and surrounding streets including Garden Street will become cut through streets and heavily congested. They are narrow streets and cannot handle lots of traffic.

Kay Brow is not suitable for many vehicles, and in winter when it freezes it would be a death trap. Also, it means that through traffic would have to turn right at the end of Railway Street which would not be easy if ALL the vehicles coming into Ramsbottom have to go up Bridge Street. The whole scheme is un workable.

Ramsbottom traffic is horrendous at peak times, this combined with the train back up of traffic would be even worse in a one way traffic system. I feel traffic would potentially back up from the railway to the lights at nuttall lane. Kay Brown is horrendous in the winter and not suitable to take that amount of traffic.

Would love to see the one way system, all good very positive move

It will not work cars busses and wagons going down k Brow ridiculous idea will cause so many problems and accidents seen so many tnt wagons stuck on the top when they have gone down by mistake

Kay brow is unable to deal with the flow of traffic now without extra traffic circumnavigating that route if cars are unable to use bridge street and it the winter it becomes in usable with icy or snowy conditions anyway. Plus the high street shops rely on passing trade for convenience shopping the lay-by and parking on bridge street and crow lane are always at capacity, which indicates that the road is week used by local people especially the older population who may not walk far. If the system isn’t broken why look to fix it? Also when the steam train runs and the barrier is down the grid lock will probably escalate back and up Kay brow, even now it’s very slow and it reaches the edges of Kay brow flats without extra traffic ..

I’ve not seen the details of what is proposed but if it genuinely improves traffic flow (without major disruption) and improves the pedestrian/shop owner experience then I am fully supportive.

As a resident of Ramsbottom, this will drastically worsen travelling through Ramsbottom. Whichever office worker considered this a sound proposal clearly never drives through Ramsbottom on a daily based. The required right turn at the top of Key Brow for anyone wanting to go the opposite way back into Rammy just shows this.

I live on Dundee Lane its already used as a cut through by people driving too fast its going to horrendous if this is implemented.

You’d be better putting one way going up Kay brow and making everyone go down bridge street

This will restrict movement in an already busy town. The infrastructure we have for the current volume of traffic isn’t sufficient and introducing a one way will make it worse not better. If anything we need another road in/out of Ramsbottom.

It will stop me going into Ramsbottom to shop and I will try to avoid it completely. I rarely have difficulty coping with the traffic going through Ramsbottom but feel this proposal is impractical and make it worse. Usually only a problem if there is an accident and again, I feel the proposal will cause more accidents especially with the volume of Wagons trying to navigate the new system. Rush hour traffic is a problem everywhere that people just have to deal with but the one way system will make this much worse - particularly with all the new houses being built next to the station.

It does not seem to make sense. What is the (perceived) problem that is supposed to be being solved? The purpose of a one way system is surely to keep traffic flowing, but, travelling north, into Ramsbottom, there would a right hand turn, ie across the flow of oncoming traffic, to go down Kay Brow which would severely impact on traffic flow towards the motorway/A56. IF a one way system is to be introduced it would surely make more sense to make it the other direction?

Kay Brown is dangerous in icy / snowy weather and there would be no suitable alternative route to get out of Ramsbottom on that side of town. Even in good driving conditions, Kay Brow is problematic for large vehicles (including lorries accessing the FedEx depot and Cormarfactory at the bottom), with uneven ground and a sharp bend at the bottom. It would make deliveries difficult for the supermarkets which are all close together in an area which would be significantly affected.When driving out of Ramsbottom it would likelybe extremely difficult to turn right out of Railway Street with a steady stream of traffic entering into the one way system up Bridge Street, which would cause heavy tailbacks on Railway Street and Kay Brow and quickly cause gridlock around town. This problem will likely get worse when the new housing development on the Mondi site is complete and occupied, with 3 traffic pinch points very close together, I.e. exit from Railway Street, level crossing and entry / to the estate.

A very steep and narrow road is part of the route some drivers will struggle with that

Terrible idea.

How can you drive down kay brown in winter with ice and snow. The road gets shut because of ice and danger to life.

What about the wagons ??

This would cause endless issues. Don't change what already works. It's been like this for hundred or so years.

Traffic is currently too heavy for existing routes to remain. Quite frankly, it's dangerous

Traffic is already a nightmare, why mess with it further? People visit Ramsbottom because of its history and beauty, I think a one way system will put people off visiting as one way systems are proven to cause stress among drivers, particularly visitors.

Kay brow is not suitable for large vehicles even under a 1 way system.

This is going to cause more congestion Extend journeys unnecessarily and likely impact trade/ retail

Seems daft not allowing people the choice, not sure what’s wrong with it now and only being able to go down Kay brow in winter will be very dangerous. I always avoid it at that time of year through fear of skidding on ice usually made worse as bury council can’t keep it gritter properly either.

Ramsbottom is heavily congested already before the new houses on the papermill site are erected. A 1 way system is ridiculous it will very backed up to Bury! When the train arrives it will be even worse. The traffic needs to flow and 2 way traffic helps. Ridiculous proposal. The steep road is not suitable for anything bigger than a small car, let alone wagons and buses

This system will not improve the flow of traffic, it will make it much worse. I've lived here for 23 years.

It will not be feasible for HGVs accessing the carpet factory, supermarkets etc. to use Kay Brow for access. Instead of a one-way system they should look at improving the local parking (instead of allowing new homes to be built on the ex-paper mill area which is at severe risk of flooding).

I have a small business in Ramsbottom on Bolton street and it is already extremely hard for my customers to find parking especially for our two hour long appointments If there was a one way system they would have to keep going round and round in the circuit to try and find a space! Don’t fix what isn’t broken!

Traffic is always difficult in Ramsbottom especially during peak times I don’t think that the new proposal will help in anyway at all

No one has stated why the current vehicle flow system needs changing. If it is anything like the road changes at the Town Hall & College then it will mean spending a lot of money to make the road system worse.

This will affect all business owners, all students using the bus networks. This will have a major negative impact on all of the residents within Ramsbottom.

It's just not practical or workable. It seems designed to block true growth in the community

Unnecessary.

With all the businesses currently operating on and adjacent to Kay Brow, it can currently be difficult at times to negotiate Kay Brow. Without the option to use either Bridge Street or Kay Brow either way, I feel this will double the current difficulties placed on the public and the business; especially the small ones like Ramsbottom Tyres.

I cannot see any gain from making it one way. Surely it will create more polution if you have to drive all the way round town to get somewhere I sure truck drivers are going to struggle. What a massive waste of public money. Do the people who came up with this idea live in Ramsbottom? Spend the money repairing the roads instead.

Ramsbottom Is to small for a one way system

Logistics of heavy vehicles descending down Kay Brow doesn’t bear thinking about. I would be fearful of a huge risk of very heavy traffic causing untold damage to property and people in adverse weather conditions and the impact on the nursery would be immense.

In my opinion this would cause utter chaos. There is a consider volume of heavy haulage that would struggle using Kay Brow especially during inclement weather. I wouldn’t like to negotiate Kay Brow in inclement weather in a motor vehicle. I really don’t think that this is the solution and I doubt anyone who drives through Ramsbottom regularly would agree with this proposal.

How are trucks going to turn down Kay Brow..? They would have take the corner by using the full width of Bolton road. Dangerous.

It's perfectly fine as it is. Traffic flows fine. It would be a waste of money and effort

It will take trade away from bridge street and affect family run businesses majorly. I think this is a really bad idea and needs to be reconsidered.

Real concerns about Kay Brown and HGVs.

I don’t have a car & I feel this would pave the way to improving pedestrians & cyclists experience in Ramsbottom.

Ramsbottom can be congested without a one way system.

It will gridlock the town

This is a terrible idea. Driving down Kay Brow is often an issue when you want to merge with Bridge street and turn right towards the motorway as it can be difficult to cross the lanes to go right. This is even more of an issue when trains pass through and will ultimately make traffic much worse in the town. Having the option to go up Kay Brow to bypass traffic lights prevents traffic building up on Bridge street and it would be even worse if residents were unable to drive down bridge street.

So what about delivery vehicles, articulated lorries etc?

Stupid idea ,fix potholes instead

Ramsbottom Is to small for a one way system

The one way plan was littered with inaccuracies and highly flawed assumptions.The consultation was therefore presented to the public in a highly misleading way having said that a one way system will never work for Ramsbottom.

Bridge Street is a thoroughfare to the motorway across town for all the people living to the west of Bolton road, using this road on a regular basis it’s quite obvious that the traffic light sequence at Nuttall lane/Dundee Lane is to blame for any build up of traffic in the centre of Ramsbottom at peak times. They same to change about 3pm. Railway Street would become a carpark with people trying to get across traffic coming west along bridge st up to the lights. Traffic would increase dramatically on crow lane which is already narrow. If this gets the go-ahead it’s all about money, not traffic management, also doesn’t matter how much money you throw at buses it’s too late, you will not get people out of there cars onto buses!

Will be a bottle neck trying to get out at the bottom onto Bridge street at the bottom to go up to Whalley Road and the motorway. It’s bottlenecked already on a Saturday and Sunday as shoppers do their shop at Aldi, Tesco and Morrisons. Who thought up this crazy idea?

It would cause gridlock. I don't think the consultants actually came and looked at the traffic situation during peak periods.They just relied on traffic surveys

Yet again Bury council are going to make an ill informed judgment, this time affecting Ramsbottom’s thriving town centre.

This will keep me away from ramsbottom completely. I visit weeekly and will not back be back to support local businesses if this is passed. The HGVs will be a complete nightmare. It will cause congestion where roads join and will impact emergency services routes Absolute pointless waste of money

Easier to cross the road ig but idk I think it could also be bad but it might be good change rammy kinda needs one

This would be very detrimental to Ramsbottom, both residents and visitors. Why mess with something that is working well as it is? And have we not suffered enough disruption due to roadworks? Please leave our town as it is.

The traffic is bad enough now it will be so much worse if this goes ahead. I have a friend who I visit who lives in Ramsbottom. What about the businesses who have to deliver to the shops. For goodness sake they have messed Bury up with changing roads .

This will cause traffic chaos, especially at rush hour and in the winter

I have mobility issues and use taxis a lot. It will cost me more . I know if I travel up bridge street to the lights and turn right it costs 20 to 30p more than going down crow lane . So ehat is planned will be a very big hindrance and expense for me . I retire next year and won't be able to afford taxis as much . So will be isolated alone in my flat more

Work in ramsbottom, this has not been thought out, it will not work

Who in there right mind would take a bus or large articulated vehicle down Kay brow!!! with homes and apartments either side together with businesses on the right hand side. The traffic on bridge street is busy at peak times and is not helped by vehicles parked up adjacent to St Paul’s church, and shop delivery vehicles on both sides. Possibly change deliveries to a specific time away from peak hours. Vehicle drivers will no doubt find ways around the back streets if this one way system is implemented. The scheme will be a disaster for the town.

I live in Edenfield and travel through Ramsbottom everyday. Ramsbottom is already gridlocked and travelling up Bolton Street and Bolton Road West is difficult enough. With the ever-increasing population and the new build houses being crammed into Ramsbottom and Edenfield, the proposal of creating a one way system will cause traffic chaos. Not only will driving out of Ramsbottom be worse heading towards Holcombe Brook but travelling into Ramsbottom from this direction will also be significantly worse the the traffic trying to turn right onto Kay Brow.

Will be absolute chaos in rush hour Will direct an influx of traffic through residential areas such as stubbins and the rake. Have Rossendale council been made aware and understood the implications this has on their area? Will create difficulties for businesses receiving deliveries Kay brow is avoided in snowy conditions - will give drivers no option but to risk the steep hill in icy conditions as bury council do not do enough to maintain safe road conditions during the winter Will create danger for children crossing to go to the park due to influx in traffic When cause increased delays when the teain is running Not appropriate for busses or HGV’s due to hill. Turning right at the railway will be increasingly difficult and cause delays due to larger vehicles needing to wait for a gap in the traffic to take a wide turn

Think it's fine - why not introduce it. Widen the walk ways and make the area more pedestrian friendly

Living in the town centre, these changes will greatly increase congestion and make navigating the centre increasingly difficult. This will impact my daily life!

Will ease traffic congestion

The town centre is already regularly grid locked in busy times. This can’t help the situation. Kay brow can not accommodate the volume of traffic. What is the plan in poor driving conditions, eg ice and snow?

It will spoil what's left of the traditional Ramsbottom and make it look like any other town. It will ruin tourism but also cause chaos during construction. It can only have a negative impact on traffic with very little benefit overall. Money would be better spent on improving parking and play facilities.

Other work around the borough is far more of a priority ie pots hols and a much improved bus service. We think the proposed one way system will make Ramsbottom rush hours even more bedlam than they already are. Local businesses have enough to deal with, trying to manage rising costs etc, the last thing they need is a decrease in customers due to people taking an easier route to similar places!

Poorly thought through proposal that cannot possibly be based on traffic management analysis

I live I. Ramsbottom and this would seriously impact my commute to work, commute home and shopping within the town, it’s a steep valley. I’m not walking home, up hill with heavy shopping bags,

Traffic is already difficult in the area, adding a one way system will make it worse instead of improving it as it's regularly backed up or blocked due to issues. It would make getting onto the motorway going to work a nightmare along with adding extra wear and tear and traffic along stubbins which is already small enough.

This makes perfect sense. Most issues are waiting for oncoming traffic. This will free it up. It works in most towns and cities it's implemented.

Kay Brow is very difficult to drive up or down in winter, ice, snow. Turning onto the road will be difficult for trucks. Ramsbottom gets gridlocked all the time this proposal will cause so many problems for people who live in Ramsbottom, just the time taken to do the changes will have a negative impact on the town. People will stay away and then the businesses will struggle to get the customers back as they will have gone else where. The charm of Ramsbottom is that is old fashioned introducing a one way system will take that away. People who actually live in the town do not want a one way system, listen to the people who live there.

Very poorly though through, inconvenient for commuters and qill negatively impact local businesses. It will be chaotic!

Dont want this to happen how can trucks turn right at kay brow and box only has like 3 cars to turn right. Increased traffic Fumes Noise

Kay Brow is definitely not suitable for large commercial vehicles, bad enough forcars in bad weather!

It will cause more congestion If a accident like with the bus at xmas we would or be able to get in or out of ramsbottom Lorry’s in winter will be dangerous, especially at the bottom junction and going up past Aldi More traffic through stubbiins going past the urn Already going to cause more traffic with new eccleston homes houses, making this one way will cause even more problems - in a already queued road in the morning (from 7-9am) Doing something for doing something sake - spending money when again not needed - an additional entry to the ‘M66 would be more beeficial for residents Opportunity to pedestrianise in Covid, this was reversed - rammy market gone, I think we need to make it easier to visit ramsbottom not cause chaos and a one way system that will not benefit the community that live here

It seems madness with the proposed system only having the Kay brow entry into ramsbottom from Bolton. What happens with rd works or a vehicle breaking down. Or a crash. Total mayhem.

I think this is a sensible idea with limited impact.

Traffic is currently terrible and pavements aren’t wide enough to support families and disabled people

I utterly oppose this idea. The council would do more good by repairing the roads and ridding Ramsbottom of pot holes. I

I think this would result in more issues. There would be more accidents, especially in the winter. It would be a great expense and not be environmentally friendly

Ramsbottom is busy enough already. A one-way system makes no sense. It would be a huge spend of council money which could be much better placed elsewhere.

This is an absolutely ludicrous idea, shared by US residents that actually LIVE in Ramsbottom, use the roads, and hold the frustration of how horrendous they are. Being a resident as per above, it is CLEAR to see that a one way system WILL NOT WORK, it’s plain common sense, a view shared by those of us ‘on the ground’ who hold the REAL experiences and not dreaming up these wild phenomenons in an office. A one way system will only add to the the congestion, causing bottlenecks and absolute gridlock, even more so in times of adverse weather such as snow and ice when accidents occur and block a route or route become impassable, or break downs affecting one route, which in the current system can then be navigated by going another route/way. This money could be far better spent on resurfacing, better traffic management of the main junctions in and around Ramsbottom, development of the town centre for recreational etc - NOT to WASTE on this proposed system which will have zero benefit for residents and visitors.

This should have been implemented years ago.

Traffic in Ramsbottom can already be challenging. With the FedEx hub at the bottom of Kay Brow, traffic getting down there may struggle with the number of wagons.

The proposals are going to cause absolute mayhem. I work around and shop in Ramsbottom on a daily basis and the impact will be massive, all, in a negative way. It will increase journey times, cause severe traffic problems and possibly endenger life with Buses, cars and HGVs going down Kay Brow.

stupid idea, cause unnecessary traffic in a town already having traffic problems , will be a massive issue for large vehicles. what happens if it’s 1 way and hgv runs out of drive time ? town will be gridlocked . negative impact for businesses and public transport

It will just make a very bad traffic area even worse , you’re going to make it impossible for people to drop off/pick up kids from school

Sat and watched an Armstrongs lgv turn left out of bridge street as it is with two way traffic and it struggled to get round move forward to a one way system and wider paths and single lane the rear tail swing of that wagon will be over the path then there’s Kay brow when the train is in itvalready backs up railway bottom add all the traffic going down there you’ll have carnage you can’t even repair the road we have more houses mean more cars we’re heading to gridlock

I strongly oppose the one way system you intend to purpose. It will build up heavy traffic, delay schools, delay people working. Impact businesses negatively and deter people from going to the area due to traffic and already limited parking. I don’t understand why you would want this area as a one way system given the area and location. You will impact surrounding areas of ramsbottom also. It is a waste of resources, please refer to the condition of the roads rather than trying to turn this into a one way system it isn’t needed. The traffic will likely result in the closure of businesses and car accidents.

They need to ask local people what absolutely what inpacked it would have on local trade people and bus drivers and wagon drivers especially in bad weather.

As with all council planning when it comes to the roads I doubt any of you drive through Rammy or bury in rush hour, everywhere you go its Grid locked and dont get me started on the bike lanes. Never ever seen a cyclist use them sine they were created. One way through Rammy is ridiculous, traffic is bad enough already.

It's a ridiculous idea. Kay Brow is narrow, steep and impassable on some days in winter. There is a nursery, numerous businesses and homes and flats on both sides of the road. There is even a sign at the bottom which says unsuitable for HGV's. What kind of idiot thought this was a good idea

It will cause chaos, it will be completely unworkable, it is dangerous (as a bus driver of 13 years and a PCV instructor) it is laughable to expect buses to do what you’re proposing. It will deter footfall in the area, not increase it. There are better things to spend money on in Ramsbottom, such as parks and play areas for children, public gardens, a marketplace… Just don’t do this, it will be a disaster.

This will be disastrous, especially in winter with the frost/ice and snow. This road is one of the last, if ever to be gritted!!! In addition to this I believe it will increase congestion due to the number of people being forced to take that route to leave ramsbottom.

It will mean high volumes of traffic on Kay brow which in its present state won’t cope with it. What will happen to HGV

Strongly oppose. This village is not built for such footfall and heavy vehicle use. To create a one way system will cause severe distribution to the roads and its people. This would only ever been appropriate if you were to build more roads leading in and out of Ramsbottom. This is a disaster waiting to happen and is clearly a decision made by someone who will not have to live with the daily consequences. This will massively detract people from coming to the area.

It will make all of my journeys in and out of ramsbottom longer. The traffic backs up both ways so the one way system won’t improve it, just likely make it worse, particularly with the train crossing.

Added journey time. Gridlock at rush hour.

This is a ridiculous idea with zero benefit, simply wasting money. The money should be spent on developing better parking for free and also public transport routes as well as supporting the local businesses. This will clog up and already crowded road. The area needs developing not additional chaos on the roads.

More potential for speeding

I drive through Ramsbottom town centre 4 times a day taking my children back and forth to school . I feel this would cause more congestion. And now the new housing estate is going up it will be even busier in the centre

Cause unnecessary issues with getting around to local businesses and friends/family. Too much hassle for myself for getting to the motorway or off the motorway as I use it on a regular basis for commuting and socially.

Less traffic and also traffic calming makes it safer. More traffic calming required due to the speed people drive at excess speed in the araa

Absolutely ridiculous has anyone visited Ramsbottom? It just won’t work ! Kay Brown is difficult enough now throw in ice in winter nightmare!

Together with the train and proposed pedestrian crossings they will cause gridlock

I live on Ramsbottom Lane and I feel the one way system will negatively impact my day to day life as I will need to drive up to Kay Brow and back round in order to get into the centre of Ramsbottom rather than travel straight down Bridge Street

Will keep more traffic in the centre, and make pedestrian and bus routes hazardous.

Ridiculous idea. Large Lorrie’s would never get up Kay brow. Stupid idea by people who don’t know Ramsbottom

Trying to turn right into bridge street after a train had passed is one of the easier ways to create traffic chaos. Think of all those cars going up Bridge St preventing any cars turning right at all untill they have all passed This will prevent cars accessing supermarket entrance roads along railway street due to the backlog of cars

In my opinion it will cause huge tail backs and create more problems with traffic especially lorries and buses

Reduce traffic, dont manage it! Ban large articulated trucks from certain parts.

Silly idea !!

HGVS and Busses travelling Down Kay Brow could only be thought we'll of by people who have never driven such vehicles I have driven both HGVS and Public Services Vehicles.e. Busses and I know it will be very dangerous in inclement weather and disastrous I. Snow and ice. Bury Metro cannot keep Bury New Road open in Snow in winter so Kay Brow will be an impassible skid pan. I was a vocal objectort to the proposals last year yet was not even aware of the new consultations.

Don’t feel this will help the traffic situation . I will avoid the centre completely if this comes in

I live in the centre of Ramsbottom & drive down Carr St onto Bridge St daily to care for my elderly parents in Walmersley. The one way system they are proposing would lengthen my journey enormously as I would either have to go through Stubbins & up onto the top road or I would have to go along Bolton St & down Kay Brow. Either way I would be stuck in traffic therefore lengthening the time it would take me to get to their house. My father has Alzheimer’s so if I need to get to their house in an emergency this proposal would massively affect this.

Less cars on bridge streets means more pedestrianised area and safer for shoppers and children

Creates more traffic, this will affect a lot of small businesses, as people will avoid area. There is no major issue for it to be changed as it is. I’ve recently moved to Ramsbottom and I don’t think the traffic is bad as other areas like Tottington. It’s no different. And other upcoming villages. Waste of money.

Little impact on me as I rarely drive to Ramsbottom. Stupid idea though as Kay Brow is not a suitable road for larger vehicles - accident waiting to happen.

Stupid idea

The roads in winter will not be passable

Kay Brown is almost impassable in some weather. Traffic will also be held up waiting to go down there in the mornings. Traffic lights where railway street meets Bridge street?

It's ridiculous to even consider a one way system it's busy enough as it is it would horrendous if one way I don't see the need for it

Stupid idea that is just going to cause further problems.

A one way systems will only add to the already bad traffic. Plus in winter having 40 foot trucks going down kay brow is the most dangerous and reckless idea, anybody could come up with.

It would have a major impact on traffic congestion and be very dangerous for heavy vehicles driving down Kay Brow.

Kay brow is not fit for purpose for heavy use, especially in winter. The gradient of the road makes it dangerous to drivers and pedestrians.

Ramsbottom has a traditional feel and aesthetic about it. Money could be spent on improving this, consideration for a new and improved covered market to attract further footfall. The width of pavements does not.

Utterly ridiculous idea.

I don't remember the details from the proposal, but I'm sure the people designing the layout know more than I do about traffic control, and I hope it eases somewhat. I hope it's part of a bigger picture to improve Ramsbottom and this won't happen if everyone keeps resisting every bit of change.

It will have a massive negative impact on local businesses and traffic will increase majorly during peak times. Lorries from other areas will struggle

As a former Police officer in the area I only see danger from this ludicrous idea. Kay Brow is a deathtrap at the best of times. The whole country isn't built for the volume of traffic. Live with it. Get rid of the ridiculous system around the town Hall. Don't fix what isn't broken

Traffic is already heavy during rush hour. This proposal will only make the situation far worse. Plus the negative impact it will have on businesses

Kay brown too narrow, dangerous in the winter with ice and snow. Will lead to further congestion

Ramsbottom needs investment and change. Other neighbouring towns are putting us to shame. Please do something soon 👍

What harm could it do!

Will take longer to get home and work

Will cause more traffic

It is unnecessary and will cause traffic holdups and be completely frustrating for residents.

Narrow turning at the top of Kay Brow, large lorries will not get round. I winter very dangerous as its a steep hill, not just lorries that will struggle. Are you allowing 2 way traffic up to Aldi or are we expected to drive all the way up bridge street - Bolton rd - down Kay brow just to get there? side streets will get clogged with folks trying to get to places quicker. It won't stop me coming into Ramsbottom as I have no choice as I work there.

Ludicrous idea the thought of the large HGV ‘s going down Kay Brow and will cause more congestion not ease it.

I’ve lived in Ramsbottom all my life and rely on being able to get around. The one way system will negatively affect my and my family from being about to do so. There are so much more important things that need money spending on. The roads are being completely ruined by heavy goods vehicles with constant potholes, the top road is sliding off the hill and I wouldn’t be surprised if a sinkhole opened up there. The swimming baths and gym could do with some TLC to make it more useful for more people. Stop wasting money on things that aren’t necessary! Look at the things that are!

I will not visit ramsbottom or use the shops there any more.

I drive a HGV, and your proposals will cause accidents EVEN DEATH, in the winter. 100% stupid idea. I’ve screen shot this so when it happens the family of those affected can sue you for more as you were per warned

It will create a danger on the roads

It will kill much of the business of the town. Increase congestion and significantly lengthen journey times. Knock on from that increases local pollution levels. Much of the larger vehicles from Local business will not have access from delivery drivers to businesses that require larger vehicles. Kay brow is impassable for HGV and public transport. The proposed cycle route deeply flawed. Pedestrian access along the new proposed routes would be very dangerous.

I’ve lived on Grants Lane my whole life and it works well the way it is now. Proposing to send lorries down that Kay Brow hill is preposterous and would cause absolute chaos and so much disruption for the residents there. Please don’t waste time and money on trying to “fix” something that isn’t broken. Concentrate on trying get less traffic coming down into the town in the first place please.

Kay Brow is too steep and narrow with no passing places or room to U-turn if there is an issue. I use Kay Brow daily and sometimes the opposite lane may have a tractor unit travelling on it and there isn't enough room to pass where the stone walls are at roadside.It is also a sharp left turn off Bridge Street. Cars waiting to turn will back up through the centre causing more pollution.

As a ramsbottom resident I think it will be really good and will ease the traffic

I strongly object to the Streets for All model, which is driving the implementation of the one way system in Ramsbottom. It is a Greater Manchester model, driven by the mayors office, and being forced on towns. Local towns will lose their character, as they all adapt to this model. The suggested one way system is to facilitate the model’s wider pavements on bridge street: it is not about reducing congestion, or managing traffic flow. Wider pavements are NOT necessary and the impact of the one way system will increase congestion and create a hazardous turning point for large vehicles on Kay Brow. I can only conclude that during peak times congestion, and pollution are going to be horrendous. Traffic flow will be seriously restricted and with Kay Brow being the only turning into town, it will be choked. It is a stupid, ill conceived plan: it ignores the fact that in a hilly, rainy area like Ramsbottom people rely on their cars and the fact that not everyone can walk and cycle all the time and everywhere.

This will cause a bottleneck and even more congestion

This will impact the traffic around bridge street & Kay brow. The roads are not made for that volume of traffic. There are already lots of potholes. Any adverse weather it will make kay brown impassable, just look at the problems the rake has when it’s icy or snowing. The hgv’s will cause a lot of damage to the roads. The weekend traffic when there is a train in the station will cause chaos. All it takes is for an accident between cars on any part of that route & it will come to a standstill. Also there will now be additional traffic from the new houses being built on the other side of the train station. All of the supermarkets & shops are on that route. You would need to resolve the parking problems that are already a massive problem.

In favour for the benefits it will give to pedestrians, particularly in Bridge Street

Although the traffic into Ramsbottom is conjested at times, having a one way system will Make matters worse. The problem is the when the M66 has problems drivers come off and try to head through Ramsbottom

It will cause absolute chaos.

It’s not going to work and it’s going to cause far more problems with the traffic, than the issues it’s actually trying to solve. You also can’t send large vehicles down Kay Brow, and in winter it would be an accident waiting to happen!!

Trying to put a 21st century traffic plan into a 18th century mill town. Original consultation stated "Kay Brow unsuitable for HGV's " Seems to have been lost in this new consultation. As was shown during the winter period two or three days of snow/frost and a breakdown brings the whole town to a standstill. As a retired civil engineer the scheme has numerous pedestrian/ vehicle conflicts which any proposed scheme would have eliminated in the design process, this excepted design criteria has been ignored. WHY !

It will help in rush hours & aid in evening taxi drop offs / pick ups. Make both streets double lane to help with the traffic

Kay brow is a nightmare - especially in the winter It will cause far more chaos! Completely oppose it

I think if the money was spend improving the roads around Ramsbottom it would be money better spend. The condition of the roads are appalling. Rather than wasting tax payers money on something that isn’t a problem, spend it in the roads that are so bad. This idea probably came from someone trying to justify their job.

Ramsbottom is already a bottle neck with busy traffic. This will cause more problems especially on KayBrow as this is a very steep hill. The trucks will really struggle in winter as will the cars. This is an appalling idea. In my opinion it will cause heavy traffic build up.

It won't woek and cause more traffic kay brow gets closed off in winter where are cars going to go What about hgvs they will have a hard time driving an 18 wheeler down there

Kay Brown is not suitable for HGV, even in a one way system

I think it would make ramsbottom centre look fantastic, and attract more visitors

The town is too busy with two sets of traffic lights when the train is working. In winter the snow makes things difficult enough without large vehicles having to use this ludicrous system.

Already congested roads will become much more cluttered, especially because of the heavy HGV traffic. We are a hilly area and if traffic is further restricted it may become more difficult, especially for non-drivers and/or the elderly to shop locally without some extra walking. Ramsbottom does not need a new traffic system as it operates efficiently and successfully as it is, and does NOT need meddling with. Outrageous and futile proposal. Unrequired. In addition, new housing is under construction which will only add vehicles to a new and frustrating system. Why not spend some money filling the potholes instead?

It would be a total waste of money and resources. There is nothing wrong with the current system. P

I live not far from the street and I believe it will drive up traffic. The two way systems allow traffic to flow both ways when needed. I believe one way systems result in backlogs of traffic and cause frustration. For example, Manchester City centre is now backlogged with traffic constantly. There’s also new houses being built at the bottom of the road so there’s going to be even more residents and traffic. . I think alternatively you could reduce the speed limit to 20 and add in pelican crossings to slow people down and make it safer for pedestrians. Currently pedestrians are constantly running across the roads because of lack of crossing areas. I think there should be traffic lights where they’re building the new houses too to manage the flow of traffic in Ramsbottom.

Ramsbottom is busy with traffic anyway. To have all traffic coming down Kay Brow would not work. It is too narrow and steep. Traffic already backs up along the railway bottom imagine how bad that would be when all traffic comes that way and when the train is in.

It will help in rush hours & aid in evening taxi drop offs / pick ups. Make both streets double lane to help with the traffic

Extremely smart effective decision. Much safer

The amount of disruption and chaos it will cause is unthinkable. Traffic is already at a standstill in rush hour. It would make it far worse.

Just going to make the traffic jams even worse

It will cause major problems at peak times , tanners the rake and Dundee lane will start to suffer even more

The flow of the village will just be completely ruined, it’s absolutely fine as it is, just leave it

Completely pointless waste of money and of no benefit to the town and its residents. Issues with HGVs and buses on Kay Brow and also in icy conditions. I do not support this proposal at all.

Probably some idiot who doesn't know Ramsbottom and surrounding area just looking at figures and charts

Simply ridiculous proposals

I consider this unnecessary and overreach of the council. There appears to be no serious and overt public consultation and without any majority public vote or opinion expressing desire for the restrictions is a gross overreach of council powers. It is undemocratic and should be erased from any plan unless there is a vote or positive consultation.

No transparency to the public. The person who design it is an American company. It's not been thought out properly. It will make the roads busier the queue up Kay brow which is very step snd dangerous road due to the incline is already very busy. The volume of traffic is what it is in rush hour every road is busy in Ramsbottom unless more road are built when houses are built that's the only way you can resolve the issue. This proposal will cause so many more problems and will affect local businesses too

This will likely increase traffic on Bolton St due to it being used as a rat run between Bolton and the A56.

Traffic in Ramsbottom is constant gridlock- something needs to be done. Alll those opposing should be made to come up with an alternative - hopefully not one that involves me sitting on Bolton road for an hour a night as I currently do

There is currently nowhere to dine and drink alfresco in Ramsbottom. If by creating a one way system, it enables customers to spend time in Ramsbottom, spending money, surely this is much better for the local businesses/economy. Like when the road was closed during Lockdown.

What an utterly ridiculous idea! It’s a struggle already trying to get through during rush hour, plus there’s motorway traffic close by, and this is just going to cause havoc!

Absolute nightmare getting in and out of Ramsbottom already on a busy traffic day, one way will just cause absolute chaos

Need to look at the lights on Bolton Road West/Nuttall Lane/Dundee Lane. The traffic would flow more freely is this situation was looked at in greater detail

This is a ludicrous idea and will result in chaos

Its never going to work .. Kay brow is too narrow to take large HGV's ... It will be dangerous for pedestrians, as will bridge street!

There is too much traffic already within Ramsbottom the plan to use Kay brow as a single route one way will cause even more traffic going around Ramsbottom to follow the one way. The council need to spend the money moving the paper mill and other large vehicle users out of the centre to reduce congestion and large vehicle turnings.

I didn’t have the time to properly analyse the proposal, and was away for the public meetings. Should make it easier to cross the road at Bridge Street. Ease congestion. I am concerned about vehicles coming down Kay Brow in icy conditions. Also concerned about the number of negative responses seemingly based on accepting the opinion of individuals on Facebook, without determining the facts themselves.

Driving through Ramsbottom is already horrendous at peak times, we have constant temp traffic lights. Kay brow will be awful and as we have DPD as a large centre employer how will they manage alongside buses etc. the roads are a challenge yet a new housing estate (which I support) has been added with what I can see little thought to how additional traffic will manage. The consultation seems a sham and the consultants appointed didn’t seem to have actually visited/observed the challenges themselves.

Kay brow is too narrow.

There will then have to be traffic lights on the main road to allow right turn. Are the big wagons also expected to go down this very steep road? That feels very dangerous to me.

Increase traffic chaos and congestion on our quaint and characterful Town.

Very poor decision, congestion, business affects etc.

I visit ramsbottom on a daily occurrence for childcare and feel this would have a major negative impact if approved.

As a young family who often visit Ramsbottom - shops, cafes, and on to nuttall park - walking through the Main Street feels really unsafe, especially with a pram and toddler. It’s impossible to cross the busy road, and it’s impossible to walk on the pavement with a pram and a toddler. Especially with all the HGVs going past.

There will then have to be traffic lights on the main road to allow right turn. Are the big wagons also expected to go down this very steep road? That feels very dangerous to me.

It will cause gridlock and is unworkable

Kay brow is totally unsuitable for the proposals.

It isn’t practical

Ramsbottom town centre is a horrible place to walk due to narrow pavements and the domination of cars

Having the one way system going down Kay brown would generate an immense amount of traffic on Bolton road. This already starts to back up now when people turn down so having it as the main system would result in tailbacks all the way back to the high school especially in the mornings and evenings coming along that route. Going up Bolton road would also have massive tail acks going into the centre. This will result in a massive headache of traffic which is completely unnecessary.

Kay Brow is steep and bad for snow and ice in winter. It is narrow, there are small businesses on Kay Brow and people living either side in flats and houses, who will be badly affected by the increase in traffic.

There is absolutely no need for a one-way system on bridge street. It serves no discernable purpose and hinders traffic along a major route in and out of Ramsbottom. As far as I can tell, most residents of Ramsbottom hate the idea, at least that seems to be the sentiment among the small number I have spoken to, but, there is no dissent within that sample.

Poor idea, will create chaos. Unnecessary spend there are much bigger priorities.

The is currently only one set of traffic lights in rammy. This makes it very difficult crossing the road with my twin babies.

Waste of time full as fuck as it is give your head a wobble you stupid mugs. Fuck off with your one way

The traffic is going to be horrendous and it’s going to be a massive inconvenience to many people.

Vehemently believe this ludicrous suggestion will cause more delays.

Key Brow is not the best road in all weathers. But I never come down in winter, it is not safe. Personally I think the one way system is an idiotic idea. Peope visit Ramsbottom because it is still unspoilt. There are enough bars and eating places without widening the pavements.

All it needs is a bus to break down or a lorry. Or anything for that matter. And they will. Then it will be chaos

Ridiculous idea with no thought to the existing traffic ie HGV's. New houses on Mondi site with one way in / out, level crossing - a disaster waiting to happen. No thought to impact on emergency services.

This doesn’t need to happen.

Bass lane not suitable for large goods vehicles in bad weather

I feel it will be a complete waste of money. It will not make things better in Ramsbottom turning it into a one way system. It will just create more traffic an congestion.plus sending large waggons,articulated trucks down key brow will be a disaster and serious accidents will happen.This will also put people off from visiting Ramsbottom.so bury council leave Ramsbottom alone it's fine as it is we do not need you messing it up with your stupid ideas .

We have lived in Ramsbottom for 38yrs and always used to support the local shops. Due to the lack of parking I now do most of our shopping in Rawtenstall. Sometimes go the the Indian restaurant on a Sunday evening when parking isn’t an issue. Making this one way I doubt I will even go to Aldi.Tesco or Morrisons ! We feel this will totally kill off Ramsbottom and to send Heavy Traffic down Kay Brow is ludicrous 😡

It will be absolute carnage. Currently, traffic splits depending on which side of Ramsbottom you need: • From the motorway: Kay Brow for Holcombe / Bridge Street for Edenfield. • From Holcombe: Kay Brow for the motorway / straight on for Bridge Street and Edenfield. Queues are already horrific with two routes. Forcing everything into one one-way system will create a single gridlocked line. It will not work. A better solution is improving the Bass Lane route to relieve traffic forced through Ramsbottom: • Upgrade Rowlands Road past Falshaw’s Farm. • Make Rowlands Road and Bass Lane one-way: Bass Lane out of Summerseat, Rowlands Road into Summerseat. Adding an entry/exit slip road on the Edenfield bypass (M66) in the opposite direction would also ease traffic. Both ideas are far better than making Ramsbottom one-way, which would be disastrous.

The pavements are very narrow and are hard when pushing a pram or walking a dog. I believe this will allow shops to have an outdoor seating area which will help more businesses thrive.

Whoever makes these decisions have never tried to go down Kay Brow in winter. The traffic will be a nightmare as you have the food stores and all redirected traffic along with the railway station. It will come to a complete holt. The people making this obviously don’t live here. If they do they are making money out of it.

It will turn Ramsbottom into a gridlock and drive business from the area.

As a hgv driver in the area and local resident the proposed plan completely undermines the current issues

I travel a lot to Ramsbottom to see my daughter and granddaughters, to make that road one way bloody madness

Ramsbottom was certainly never intended to accommodate the volume of traffic it currently carries, but this will make it significantly worse. The extra housing projects locally will also only amplify these problems significantly. The present situation at least provides an option if there is a blockage/incident, and in effect a ‘bypass’ of Bolton Street in the centre. A one way system would cause carnage and make Ramsbottom an unattractive proposition to both visit and reside in. The only modifications which could have a positive impact with regards to traffic are a) A full bypass or b) Prevention of ‘through traffic’ (but this could, of course, have an adverse impact on small business). Ramsbottom has a pleasant and rare character which would completely disappear if this plan goes ahead. I, for one, would leave Ramsbottom if the one way system is implemented - I have lived here for 35years.

From the proposals, the proposed system will completely change the look and feel of Ramsbottom. The pictures show a changed Bridge Street that would just look the same as any other town - bland and devoid of the character that locals love and that attracts visitors. The traffic on Crow Lane will be intolerable for the residents there. Access for emergency vehicles will be greatly reduced, endangering the public. Yes, the traffic can currently build up here currently, but it is nowhere near enough to warrant such drastic, expensive and disruptive plans. The small shops which need the support of the community will suffer as a result of these proposals. The council seemed to do very little for the community. The consultation was very late and very half hearted with few surgeries so that most people couldn’t get to them. I responded via the council’s chosen method and have heard nothing since. It just seems they have funding they need to spend, rather than doing something good for the community.

It is grid lock already will be worse. Also not safe to have HGVs using kay brow. It is a total waste of tax payers money.

I'd like to see a 40 foot wagon come down Kay Brow!

No!! What are you thinking???

Think it will cause chaos, especially when there are other suggestions and ideas that make so much more sense and are a lot less costly. As in making the one way system similar to what’s done when it’s the Chocolate festival etc. what’s proposed is lunacy

Whilst I agree that the pavements on Bridge Street are not fit for purpose, and we certainly need a crossing point, making it one way will cause a huge amount of disruption to Ramsbottom residents on a daily basis. A one way system will mean that from where I live I would have to do a huge loop in order to collect children from school and nursery rather than a straight forward journey. I will not be the only person in this position, it will affect getting to and from work and will make the Ramsbottom traffic worse than it already is. With a new housing development underway we are already going to have a much busier town centre anyway; a one way system provides absolutely no gains in any way.

We need a pedestrian crossing near the bank pub and better pavements not a 1 way system

It seems totally nonsensical to propose this change. I have lived in Ramsbottom all my life and whilst I am aware that in the evening rush hour Ramsbottom is very busy, I do not see how a one-way system would help this. Any one way element would need to go back to a 2 way road at some point and this would create a bottleneck itself

This is not the solution to the problem. In fact it will make Ramsbottom more difficult to navigate.the loss of parking in the. Pillage will adversely Affect local businesses. Think again please

Crazy idea town too small for one way system and streets too narrow

Have to drive through Ramsbottom daily to work. The traffic is already very bad without adding restrictions/diversions. Kay Brow is a very steep road and bad weather already makes it treacherous but at least drivers can currently choose whether to use it or not.

Heavy HGV Traffic going down Kay Brow dangerous. Awful for local home owners near this route. Would impact hugely this part of Ramsbottom to the detriment of these homes and households.

The traffic is bad enough and this will simply affect to the chaos especially in rush hour and seriously Kay Brow in winter months often gets closed when it snows - accidents waiting to happen

Will just add more miles and more inconvenience to a journey.

Driving down kay brow is bad enough without adding snow and ice to t he equation. It avoided by many in Bad weather condition . Whilst queuing to come down it will hold up through traffic. Buses will have to take a left turn on a tight corner . Getting out of railway street is difficult enough too. How busy will it be if everyone has to drive around in a circle to get to supermarkets etc To bring my granddaughter home from school will mean having to navigate Kaye brow everyday. Just nipping to the garage , the shops mean a round trip . What if a hgv misses it’s turning down Kaye brow ( actually how will a huge hgv for fedex or cormar fit down in the first place ) where would it turn around

Most stupidest thing suggested. Ransbottom is small enough and roads are horrendous with potholes and collapsing grids. Using Kay brow is not feasible especially for bus and hgvs due to the steepness and brow at the top they will get stuck Winter would be horrendous with ice and snow. Even with grit it is an ice rink. Danger to pedestrians as well due to narrow footpath and not to cap it off there is a nursery and old people flats half way down

Proposals presented are unworkable turning down onto Kay Brown will cause problems for larger vehicles and if a single vehicle stops on Kay Brie for whatever reason gridlock will ensue

I think it will cause traffic jams, a 1 way system isn’t needed in Ramsbottom.

It wont work and has been designed by idiots.

I visit Ramsbottom daily and use both roads you’re discussing. I actually currently use it as you are proposing. Forcing ALL traffic this way will not be helpful especially at weekends.would be counterproductive and will force more people to cross roads in stationary traffic which is dangerous. The route to Nuttall park from Ramsbottom is already on a dangerous corner and forcing more traffic that way is not a well thought through idea at all.

Ill thought out due to number of HGVs. A better idea would be to make Ramsbottom access only for HGVs. Through traffic to use only Bolton road or Manchester Rd. No cutting through Ramsbottom centre.

The hightstreet is dated, we have an office on gbe corner of main street above Charles Louis estate agents. I've lived here for 6 years and use a lot of the local businesses. Having more footfall better oatheways and potentially outdoor seating for the cafes will have such a huge impact. Also we have a young girl and use prams, its nearly impossible with the size of pavement.

It's already chaos in Ramsbottom regarding traffic. Imposing a one way system will cause absolute chaos, especially with the new houses being built which will generate even more traffic. If driving from Stibbins you will have to drive to Kay Brow and turn left to get into Ramsbottom centre which is a nightmare sometimes, but expecting lorries, wagons and other hgv's to do this so they get to FedEx I'm sure will cause issues.

There is a lot of heavy good vehicles what on earth is that road going to be like and it's really dangerous corner for pedestrians too with no crossing and a pain to have to drive all the way round

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The lights at the bottom of Dundee Lane need to prioritise the traffic in the main road much more. It would stop drivers using Tanners and Dundee Lane as a short cut.

Money from council which claims never to have any extra money should be going for improvement of the roads number one. Potholes are horrible and getting worse. Cars will fall apart because of the horrible roads here in Ramsbottom,

I think the whole idea is ridiculous and needs to be cancelled. Creating a HGV free zone within the town centre of Ramsbotom, creating a link road to negate the need for HGVs travelling through the town centre would be the much more sensible solution. The roads are a huge disgrace and need resurfacing properly yet you spend countless amounts re lining the yellow lines and white junction markings. There is no joining of the dots in the traffic planning section it feels.

I can only assume and hope that this crackpot scheme comes from central rather than local government . At the end of the day local people know best

I received this email via a link from somewhere other than Bury council…….why? I think the handling of this very important project that would massively impact the town has been handled appallingly with no regard, respect or consideration given to the people who live here.

No

Visited the displays and commented on the scheme at every stage but there is nothing coming out from the council. Always believed that this is a done deal and the consultation is a whitewashing exercise.

DON'T DO IT

Please do not waste precious public funds on this ill advised scheme.

I do not see an animal in the picture - I see two.

Bolton street is already a nightmare for traffic this proposed work I think would bring it to a standstill for long periods of time.

This one way scheme has clearly been designed by non residents of Ramsbottom who have little understanding of local issues. Ramsbottom residents should ALL be ballotted on this proposal before anything is green lighted.

There should be an I don't know option in the questions.

Some of the last direct questions only had ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answers to choose when I may have chosen ‘unsure’

Reduce the footpath width between Nuttall Lane and Top Park to increase better traffic flow

Ramsbottom is struggling enough. Support the businesses dont make it harder. The town need investment yes, but not this kind of change.

Bass Lane needs an instructive sign particularly for newcomers - e.g. Only two cars at a time.

There has been a need for another road from Holcombe, brandlesholme, Ramsbottom that connects to M66 for many years but it won’t occur as Bury council are only interested in proposals that reduce cars on road not ease congestion

Another crossing of the Irwell between Ramsbottom and Bury bridge woukd help

I’m all for improving road systems but I don’t think the one way system will work, especially the Kay Brow Road.

I would probably move out of Ramsbottom as all the business will be affected and the traffic jams will be awful. Good luck win HGVs going down Kay Brow in the ice and snow

Could do with clarification on use of Crow Lane and any changes 9with this proposal of a one way system

Money can be better spent on different infrastructure.

I do not see the point of spending a lot of money for little benefit.

Leave Ramsbotom alone, it’s doing great! Please ensure the no roller shutter policy for shops stays in place as it makes the village homely.

Keep it as it is

The biggest issue for me is the appalling public transport. Improving this would go much further in reducing traffic congestion. At present it’s so difficult to travel on public transport, cars are the only reliable option

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Thank you for doing all you can

I've heard nothing about this consultation since providing feedback last time.

Don’t do it!!!

Please consider that people who live here and need to commute out of Ramsbottom to work and get our children to school need the priority to be diverting traffic away from Ramsbottom not creating gridlocks!!

This is the daftest idea that I have ever come across and these paper shufflers need to come and live here for a month and see for themselves that this will not work

Will kay brown be widened

Tanners is the only diversion route available in Ramsbottom when issues arise on the wider network.THE ONLY ONE! council promote tanners in their tourism strategy actively encouraging cyclists and hikes to tanners / rake / holocombe tower. Pedestrians forced into the road, mums and prams in the road, mobility scooter users forced into the road , cyclist having to weave in and out of traffic which often gridlocks because traffic have no where to go because parked vehicles reduce the road down to one lane with no where for two way traffic to pass one another, ( section of Tanners street that sits between Carr street and Rostron Road.) And to addinsult,focusing on the cycle aspect in nutall park ! Whilst actively encouraging the public to walk an often dangerous route . If you are concerned about bass lane be 10 times more concerned about tanners an important / critical link between two main arterial routes. Bass lane leads no where

Please please bin this idea of one way traffic.

I would also worry if the scheme was to go ahead the length of time it would take for works to be completed. Ramsbottom would be in a complete state for many months if not years. They cannot even work together with other utilities to ensure roads are only dug up once but spend time relaying it for someone else to come along and dig it up again.

The first consultation pushed people to answer a certain way. Then bury council twisted the results to arrive at a one way system. They can't be trusted. We should breay away from bury and spend our council tax ourselves.

Open up the route through Summerseat that has long been proposed. Or widen Bass Lane

Maybe a possibility would be to dig out the road underneath the low bridge in Stubbins to make the bridge high enough for hgv's & buses to pass underneath and then making the tight right hand turn into Stubbins Vale Mill more accessible for Hgv traffic, this would dramatically reduce most if not all hgv traffic through Bridge Street & the village itself.

Please don't do this ! I have lived here all my 55 years and this is the worst thing that can happen to our lovey place 💔

Who can we consult re: residents parking on Callender Street as it will turn into a car park if you implement a one way system!!!!

Please use the money more Wisley

They want to make Ramsbottom more wheelchair and bike friendly, fix the pavements. put bollards up to stop vans mounting the pavements and damaging them and repair the roads. Make it safer for everyone. Road users , drivers , bikers, walkers, disabled, prams.

Lots to be honest! Have a public vote. Repair the roads properly not just patch up. Put more of a police presence in town. Sweep the streets, the weeds are terrible. Improve street lighting. Get rid of the urn and have more floral displays Build a youth club - run by volunteers Elect a Ramsbottom mayor who , regardless of political affiliation would be the go to person and have the authority to implement change where needed. We used to have the best council in the Country! Look at us now

Let's get this done.

Narrow minded brain dead idiots for even thinking this would work

Bury council won’t listen to residents of Ramsbottom, like all politicians they’re self serving.

No point bury I bet has already passed this ludicrous plan

Ask people and businesses that use theses roads

Who are Ramsbottomfoundation.org? When and why was it setup and what do you do, who runs it and how is it funded?

I'm disgusted with the representation Ramsbottom and Holcombe Brook has, MP and councillors plenty of photos but not doing anything actually seriously benefitting the health, welfare and really serious needs we have. Lots of weeding, parks ready for football, social events - get your priorities sorted, you will lose at the next election. Labour voters no more!

It would be also a complete waste of money in my opinion. Ramsbottom is now as it is and it would spoil its character.

Please do not try to salvage this plan just to save face. It will not work.

Bolton street is already a nightmare for traffic this proposed work I think would bring it to a standstill for long periods of time.

A one way system will be a disaster for ramsbottom

There’s an old saying ‘if it ain’t broke’ no matter where you live traffic is a problem, it just seems to some ramsbottom residents that none of this suggested changes will impact, for example Stubbins, Edenfield etc who still tend to say they live in Ramsbottom. It’s those of us that live in the centre it will impact. But it seems we never are consulted about anything, we have no parking, electric cars out of reach for us, hgv vehicles trying to avoid the build up oftraffic trying to get past the station onto bridge street, then realising they will have to go back round the same way again. Unfair for all those new apartments in Kay brow and the geese and ducks.

It’s a completely ridiculous suggestion

This is a leading questionnaire with an obvious agenda

I think there should be a new consultation if bury council does not wish to share or provide current consultation report. Bury council is appearing to lack honesty, transparency, human decency, respect for its local people. It seems that they cannot provide a simple report with facts and figures. What are they hiding? Where are they spending funding on? The only noticeable difference in ramsbottom is the new area being developed for supposedly new housing.I would like bury council to sort a tram station in ramsbottom.

Whoever proposed this idea do they live in Ramsbottom? As this is totally not feasible. They obviously dont know, live in the area or travel through otherwise they would know the difficulties and impracticalluties involved.

We need better access for pedestrians to the park. We need a pavement down from bury new road. We also need more crossing places for pedestrians.

Yes Use people like me to build bridges between the public and businesses. You need to have a 15 year plan, a vibrant marketplace, a policy for the arts and festivals. Lose the HGVs,

Just don't do it.

it would be amazing if these decisions were made by the people of Ramsbottom not just someone sat in an office thinking up some totally random idea! live it, breath it then consider it!

It’s a stupid idea that will leave businesses with reduced customers due to blocked roads

I think its a bad idea and will reduce the amount of people shopping and eating and drinking in Ramsbottom

Money could be better spent on existing pavements, roads and street cleaning

You need to start filling pot holes in especially at the end of fern Street where the little park is not a silly one way system

I would love to speak personally to the council about this but missed the sessions earlier in the year. Will there be others?

This is going to impact the local shops massively, people will stop shopping in Ramsbottom because of the one way system! How are the local shops Bridge street going to be impacted? How is this going to help them? The local market has already closed so how many shops are going to close?

Nothing you do will improve Ramsbottom traffic issues, it relies on tourism and this will push people away. We need more parking not reducing the spaces like your plans

The action would make Ramsbottom safer and user friendly for pedestrians

Stupid idea to make Bridge Street a one way system

It’s an absolutely preposterous idea and I’m angry at how much time and money has already been wasted in even considering it. Any person in their right mind who actually lives and exists here knows that this would cause far more problems than it solves.

Stupid idea which will create more issues and genuinely destroy the character and attraction of the town. Very disappointed.

The one way system would ve a complete waste of tax payers money. Repairing the roads and pavements would make much more sense.

Stupid idea

Working on the road in and through summerseat would be a much better option and use of public money and will free up traffic through ramsbottom

Please do not consider this proposal.This will kill the town centre completely.

Proposals to make Bridge St, Kay Brow and Crow lane one way will impact negatively on us. A pedestrian crossing on Bridge street near Crow lane junction would be helpful and widening the path in Nuttall Park. Increase free parking in Ramsbottom to encourage visitors

I’m not against change and realising we have to plan ahead for Ramsbottom’s future. However residents’ feelings about any plans must be paramount in any decision making. This particular plan to me personally should never have mooted as a serious suggestion.

Create a bus lay-by/pull in on Bolton Road West/Nuttall Lane to alleviate congestion. HGVs/tractors laden with heavy loads should be restricted in the town centre to alleviate congestion/damage to buildings & road surface. The roads in the town centre were not designed for these huge vehicles. The condition of the pavements is dire (loose flagstones/kerbstones/uneven surfaces/holes & should be improved as a priority for pedestrians. The chaos caused by the necessary roadworks to introduce the one way system will force customers & tourists away from the town & local businesses will suffer and shut down at a time when they are already struggling economically.

I think this will be a very bad idea on the one way road I don't think It will solve anything. If anything it will make it worse

No objection to raised zebra crossing on Bridge Street

I would appreciate much better public transport links between Ramsbottom and Greenmount/Tottington/Hawkshaw which didn’t involve having to go to Bury and out again, which is just silly, as is the lack of buses to Rawtenstall and Burnley from Ramsbottom centre. The residents permit issued by ELR should entitle holders to stage fares instead of charging for using the whole line just to get from Ramsbottom to Rawtenstall or Summerseat.

Don’t even think of the one watch system. The council will never sort out Bass Lane and will never sort out all the pot holes!

We have only just got a reasonably reliable bus service between Bury & Ramsbottom. It seems these changes will put further improvements to the service at risk.

Consider making Crow Lane one way instead. I'm fed up of seeing all the stand-offs and arguments outside our houses and in 30 yrs I've nearly been knocked over an average of once every couple of months. And I'm not old. Yet!

Grants lane is an unadopted road & suffers from poor maintenance plus visitors to local businesses on Kay Brow (nursery / gym) use for parking which is frustrating due to double parking, the worry being emergency vehicles may struggle to access - the planned one way system may also have an effect on response time for emergency vehicles should they need to attend addresses on Grants Lane / Kay Brow

What can we do to stop it? Who has any sense of what Ramsbottom wants, not want councillors want to push. It’s really disheartening to the town.

Please consider spending the money on more worthwhile things.

There are aspects about these plans which are urgently needed, particularly safe pedestrian crossings near Fed Ex/Aldi on Kay Brow. Narrow pavements are an issue on Bridge street and 20mph limits are a good idea. But the heavy traffic coming from Nuttall Lane estate and Green mount etc needs to be able to exit the town, and relying on Kay Brow as the only exit route from Ramsbottom seems unrealistic without work to change that street

Weekend closing of bridge street from St Paul’s up to the urn would help businesses,especially for Christmas markets and in the summer. This would not be feasible with the one way system. The traffic caused by the new development at the old paper site has not been taken into account for the new proposals. This new additional traffic will have a vast impact to the congestion in ramsbottom

Please don’t encourage cars and people to bypass Ramsbottom it will become just another ghost town void of any heart or community

We live on Whittingham drive and normally pop to Ramsbottom for shopping. I expect the one way system will cause us to go the opposite direction to Holcombe brook or Tottington. I think a development in Ramsbottom would be a great idea but there is no need to create a one way system.

It's a ludicrous idea, obviously thought up by someone who does not love in Ramsbottom and has designed it on a drive through in the summer when kay brow is clear safe and accessible

Why not prioritise parking facilities or better leisure facilities? What a waste of public money.

For Bass lane access issues, can the council consider improving Rowlands road past falshaws farm. Opening it up and making it one way

Why is this ridiculous proposal not advertised or more freely available? Why have residents nit been consulted?

I have very little faith in the Bury Planning System. They approve the things that make them look "good" without properly consulting and listening to local people. God help us for Scout Moor II.....

Bass lane simply needs a sign … cars only and two at a time max! Extend rail to main tracks ? Manchester etc PARKING A PRIORITY FOR RAMSBOTTOM

No

The above question about priorities for Ramsbottom is very ambiguous. I have answered this question with the meaning that those items should all be priorities. I do not consider that they currently are. I think you have worded the question in such a way that the results to this question could be very misleading.

I’m completing this survey but as someone who regularly reports issues and is met with the standard Bury Council has no money and no resource I’m expecting my response to fall on deaf ears.

It will affect family run businesses majorly and make them not want to buy things from these shops

Very little money is being spent on Ramsbottom in the town plan compared to other areas of Bury. This seems unfair as there are many improvements that could be done,

If the pothole problem is resolved it would not only improve drivers safety, but also cyclists safety. Currently , it is not safe for children /adults to cycle on Ramsbottom roads. The addition of cycling paths , lanes etc can not come soon enough, this would encourage local people to leave their cars & cycle in to Ramsbottom. More pedestrian crossings are also required. Finally , the train track should be used for an actual regular, proper train service that is affordable, reliable & for commuters , not the current steam offer which is too expensive & not useful to local people.

This one way plan MUST be stopped.

In my view the phasing of lights, as I’ve mentioned is Bridge St and Dundee Lane, not top of bury new rd/ park farm ( not sure what if any difference that would make). I did see some marketing information regarding this proposal and found it very misleading some pictures used were from some time ago on a very busy May bank holiday, not a normal day.

It wouldn't just stop me visiting Ramsbottom in the car, it would likely stop me going anywhere easily. If I had an appointment to get to, I would probably consider parking my car somewhere beyond the chaos! The proposals also include reducing the number of on street car parking spaces, again with a detrimental effect on the local businesses. During the consultation process we had a long chat with one of the 'consultants' and , in my opinion, there were several implications of the scheme which he had not considered. I believe that the whole scheme is roposed merely to achieve a wider pavement area at the top end of Bridge Street.

What can we do to stop it? Who has any sense of what Ramsbottom wants, not want councillors want to push. It’s really disheartening to the town.

Pedestrian access needs to be improved in Ramsbottom centre. Think the council proposal addresses quite a few of the existing issues.

I attended a meeting at Ramsbottom cc last year when local business owners outlined there concerns, I fully understood there concerns and supported them without question. Bury council have no idea what they are doing, a one way system put together by a company from the USA. !!!!! Many Local car owners already use Kay Brow when they go to our local shops and supermarkets. Bury MBC would like to take 40 ton HGVs and buses down Kay Brow a recipe for disaster with local residents and car owners who live on Kay Brow and pedestrians. In winter the Bury MBC gritters don’t go on Kay Brow. To dangerous

Bass lane needs urgent attention

Think about the traffic management and what would happen if something causes ramsbottom to become gridlocked. There would be nowhere to go.

Spend money on supporting local schools and increasing their budget rather than wasting it on something that is not needed nor wanted. Schools are massively under funded and is concerning that computers cannot be bought, room cannot be heated in classrooms and yet we can waste money like this.

I appreciate that something is trying to be done, but I don’t think this is the answer

stupid idea.

DO NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS! Spend money on better, more sustainable things for the community.

I would like to add where are all the children and parents going to go from the new houses being built in Ramsbottom? Are there school places room at the local drs surgeries ? Also the 160 cars approx leaving and coming back to their homes ! Please tell me councillors have thought of this or is that asking too much ?

The proposed system would involve traffic crossing each other at top of kay brow-chaos

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I am a qualified driver, instructor and D of T driving examininer and have worked on Traffic Management and Road Safety for several Local Authorities. Whoever made the proposals re Kay Brow obviously lacks practical experience of the issues involved in driving LARGE vehicles down that road in winter.

There is a need for a pedestrian crossing near the church on Bridge Street as people just walk into the road when you are driving down. When i first moved to Ramsbottom I was surprised by the amount of large vehicles going directly through the centre of town - tractors, HGV’s, buses, tractors pulling trailers etc. Is there anyway the volume of these vehicles can be reduced? Is there a different way they could go?

Sort the pot holes out and the pavements first, and bring back the markets back to ramsbottom.

A one way system is completely the wrong idea, it will create more traffic and cause huge issues to everyday life in Ramsbottom and have huge impacts on the community, town and stores

I own a business in Ramsbottom and hope that many of the suggested plans take place, alongside this. Ramsbottom is falling behind as far as small towns go, and has so much potential.

Mo I’ve said it above.

Why can’t the council just use common sense to fix what we need fixing instead of hare brained schemes to waste money.

Narrow minded brain dead idiots for even thinking this would work

There is not too much of a problem with how things currently work. There are far bigger issues that need addressing before this.

Council should sort the payments along with the road surface

Ramsbottom is traditionally built of stone buildings built when there wasn't as much traffic. Maybe build a car park at the outskirts and encourage people walking in a short distance. Bridge Street would be better for businesses if it was pedestrianised.

Why is Bass Lane on here when it’s in Summerseat

I hope you can stop this nonsense plan. It is not a plan designed for Ramsbottom- it is a generic greater Manchester plan that is not suitable for our town. I don’t have a problem with increasing access for people walking and cycling but it will make all GM town look very ‘samey’ and the plan has no regard for any impact on congestion, two major failing. Congestion at peak times is already horrendous, this will make it considerably worse. Your suggestion re a link road from Bolton road to the motorway should be explored. The idea of reviewing Bass lane access is a non starter: it cannot be widened, the landowner will not sell. Even if they did, the two routes through summerseat , towards Longsight rd, are severely restricted by similar narrow roads, and again no way to widen them. It can never provide a suitable alternative ( non congested ) route.

The traffic up Bolton st is horrendous at times Surely increased traffic having to usethat road to access the town and motorway would make things ridiculous.

This is a very bad idea & will cause more problems than it solves

Before you spend money doing other schemes, fix what’s there first. Then make improvements. You can’t leave the roads the way to are. You need to hold sub contractors to more responsibility when they are reinstating roads after jobs. There seems to be no standard of the quality of the work being left after jobs are carried out on the roads.

It would be a great improvement to avoid potential RTA's if the pavement was slightly narrowed and road widened at the pinch point at the junction of Stubbins Lane, Ramsbottom Lane, Factory Street.

The system is not broken. Please don’t attempt to ‘fix’ it.

I think more crossings should be added to the town centre for pedestrians. We have a lovely town centre and it would make it safer for users to visit.

I appreciate the hard work of the council . The number one problem is fix Bass Lane #2 Re route Bridge and Kay #3 Link to moterway. Junction

Why did you not consult before coming up with hare brained ideas? This will reduce the times I travel to Ramsbottom to shop, and many other people will do the same, great wa6 to kill off the town centre …

Please please please use the money for something we actually need, this is ridiculous in my opinion, the people of Ramsbottom don’t want it

The council need to actually listen to local people and be transparent. Money is constantly being wasted pot hole fixing is a waste iof money relay the rd to maximise spending. More roads need adding. Houses were allowed to be built in Ramsbottom st the cricket club but no extra rd. this was not thought out. The whole picture needs to be looked at when making decisions.

I agree that something needs to be done in Ramsbottom to provide wider footway space and discourage driving. However, this will be very difficult with current traffic levels. The main issue in Ramsbottom is that Bolton St is used as a ran run. This results in a large number of vehicles passing through Ramsbottom, for which the infrastructure cannot accommodate this. This results in issues at the Bolton Rd / Bridge Street junction. This also makes it very difficult and dangerous to cross Bolton Rd anywhere between this junction and the Nuttall Lane junction due to absence of safe crossing facilities. Making Kay Brow and Bridge Street one-way will only increase the amount of traffic travelling South on Bridge Street, worsening these issues.

Albeit a nice to have, we don’t require all of the roads to drive down through Ramsbottom. Certain streets would significantly benefit from being closed off for drinking / dining. People used to travel miles for the restaurants in Ramsbottom. This needs reintroducing. Once people are in Ramsbottom, they’re here to spend. That is of major benefit to the local businesses.

The one way system will affect the businesses. I for one will not go into Ramsbottom centre shopping anymore I will avoid it completely. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to have HGVs going down Kay Brow obviously have not used the Road when it’s snowed or icy. I frequently walk into the centre of Ramsbottom with a double pram and do not have a problem. I have more of a problem on Longsight Road trying to navigate a double pram on the narrow footpath that is overgrown with weeds and nettles that the council refuse to cut back.

When is the council going to publish the report / findings....

Stop allowing building in the centre of the town! Build more infrastructure such as schools doctors and dentist!

The council should do more to promote businesses in Ramsbottom. Our lovely little historic town has great potential for interesting, independent shops but seems to be strangled by high local costs. You should look at the difference between us and Rawtenstall where costs are cheaper and they have more independent shops. The council should also have kept Square St pedestrianised - Levanter may have survived, and it’s much more in keeping with the eco agenda.

You need to pay attention to what the people who actually live in ramsbottom are telling you

Please, please fix the main roads in Ramsbottom, resurface, fix potholes, etc.

It is the worst idea ever. Everyone who lives here knows how bad the idea will be in practise. Maybe on computer modelling it works but reality will be dire and the town will be gridlocked moat of the time.

More than 5 generations have lived in this town - I think I may be the last

Think changing to one way is waste of resources that could be better spent on other things & will negatively impact businesses in Ramsbottom

Ramsbottom is fine as it is leave it alone . Turning it into a one way system will be a total disaster an waste of money . Spend some money on improving the road surfaces an filling in pot holes , but please don't spoil our beautiful town with your stupid idea , from a very concerned resident.

This ridiculous idea must be stopped before it ruins Ramsbottom for good !!!!!

Id like more bars on bridge street and less accountancy firms, they are an eye sore on the main street. The prices of alcohol in the pubs id also becoming too expensive.

Why not outline the roads we do have so people can drive on them correctly? No more restaurants or charity shops. Maybe have a youth club for the kids. Waisting money on a one way that won’t work when parking isn’t even considered. What is going to happen when it snows?

The roads are bad enought to travel on being so small thus would only add to the problem

Not expecting this to be listened to or even read

I urge you to reconsider a pointless one way system and focus more on issues such as bass lane, the resurrection of the theatre on Bolton Street West and making all shop fronts on both main roads more attractive and in keeping with the town heritage.

I have a disabled kid and getting around with the uneven pavement are a joke they need to be sorted

Already too difficult to get to Ramsbotham especially by bus.

Dong listen to idiots, listen to the business owners of Ramsbottom.

Would like to thank ISM who brought this to our attention at the beginning and held meetings about the proposed plans.